These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Jun 18, 2010 9:25:26 am PDT #7487 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I think talking about sports in eras makes sense. We do that all the time in baseball. Pitchers and hitters have different challenges in various eras (and obviously are playing different opponents), so it's hard to judge who's the best of "all time".

And I am the girl who doesn't recognize BB's home run record. And no, not because of steroids, but because of Josh Gibson. So, I won't say Barry hit the most of all time. And we're also missing video evidence for the first half to 2/3s of MLB; so I don't know if Barry Bonds, for instance, had a better read off the bat than, say, Al Kaline?

Anyway, parsing up the eras makes room for lots more lists, and if there's anything a sports nut likes, it's lists!


§ ita § - Jun 18, 2010 9:30:10 am PDT #7488 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think talking about sports in eras makes sense

Then say LeBron is the best of his generation. Just not the best of his generation of all time. That's the part I object to.

I would like to lobby for people to M Jack Carter. I'm just not gonna do it. But he's an awesome dad.


amych - Jun 18, 2010 9:31:17 am PDT #7489 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'd totally M Jack Carter. And, predictably, F Jack Harkness.


Vortex - Jun 18, 2010 9:31:44 am PDT #7490 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

F Jack Harkness
C Jack O'Neill
M Jack Carter

I would say M Jack Harkness, but I'm not enough woman to keep him.


javachik - Jun 18, 2010 9:32:54 am PDT #7491 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Just not the best of his generation of all time. That's the part I object to.

Oh, I didn't catch that! You're right; that's ridic!


Toddson - Jun 18, 2010 9:35:04 am PDT #7492 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I think your office needs trained monkeys to deliver print jobs....

or pneumatic tubes ... possibly with trained monkeys putting print jobs in the tubes

A place I used to work there was a woman who was crazy. One of the things she'd do was send a print job to a printer and then forget which printer she'd sent it to and then send it to another printer ... over and over again. Or she'd send it to a printer and either not give it time to print out or not realize the printer was out of paper/toner and resend it. Over and over. One day a woman who sat near a printer that had pages of this woman's crap piled up gathered up all the pages - a significant stack - and took it to the crazy woman's cube and scattered them all around. On the desk, on the chairs, on the shelves ... all over.


Liese S. - Jun 18, 2010 9:37:39 am PDT #7493 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

He was better in his generation than Michael was in his generation? Dunno.


Liese S. - Jun 18, 2010 9:39:50 am PDT #7494 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

People leave stuff on my printers and there`s only the two of us here. So, you know, people is us.


DavidS - Jun 18, 2010 9:46:13 am PDT #7495 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

He was better in his generation than Michael was in his generation? Dunno.

Definitely not. People forget MJ was a freaky good defender as well. Admittedly, he couldn't win a championship until he had a team of complementary players, especially Pip (who was an even better defender), and then The Worm. Throw in some white guy who could hit the three (Kerr et al.) and that's your championship.

Still, I don't know if the Bulls at their best could've beaten the Magic/Kareem/Worthy Lakers or that one year of the Celtics when they had a healthy Bill Walton.


§ ita § - Jun 18, 2010 9:49:17 am PDT #7496 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wish I had ever gotten a chance to see MJ play in person. Dammit. I did see Pippen, and he blew me away. I can only imagine Jordan in his prime.