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'The Message'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - May 20, 2010 12:33:26 pm PDT #716 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

So, I don't know much about Rand Paul except what I've heard over the past few days, but he's a fuckhead, right?

I think he's just a very idealogical libertarian. Government should not regulate how a private business conducts its business even when it does something like blatantly discriminate, or, presumably, pollute or endanger workers.


Tom Scola - May 20, 2010 12:34:26 pm PDT #717 of 30001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Wow. I really don't work in an office anymore, do I?

I am intrigued by your ideas, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.


meara - May 20, 2010 12:50:31 pm PDT #718 of 30001

Yeah, honestly, I can totally see where Paul is coming from. That...doesn't mean I agree with him. But I can see where he's coming from. I don't know his other positions, so I suspect from what other people say he's not taking the libertarian thing across all venues, which makes me LESS sympathetic to his position on this one. If he were hardcore, and that was why....


Hil R. - May 20, 2010 12:54:03 pm PDT #719 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah, honestly, I can totally see where Paul is coming from. That...doesn't mean I agree with him. But I can see where he's coming from.

Where do you see him coming from? The only defenses of him that I've read have been from totally out-there irrational positions, so I'm interested in what some of the actual reasoning that can support his statements is. (Do I have the right subject/verb agreement there? Something sounds wrong.)


Gudanov - May 20, 2010 1:02:26 pm PDT #720 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

I don't think reasoning is where he's coming from, it's ideology.


smonster - May 20, 2010 1:08:31 pm PDT #721 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

In the Charlotte airport, and I'd pay someone twenty bucks if they gave me a cot and half an hour for a nap.

CLT has rocking chairs! But no cots, afaik. ::waves SW at Dana::

I giggled all the way home reading the business speak. We don't get much of that, but we do have some bs backronyms. And we do have a serious knowledge silo problem.


Calli - May 20, 2010 1:09:26 pm PDT #722 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

NGOs seem to looooooove business-like obfuscatory language. I guess there's only so many times you can say, "We helped them build a hospital. Then there was a civil war and it burned down and all the staff were shot. Now were helping the new government build and staff another hospital," without diving into a whiskey bottle and refusing to come out.


§ ita § - May 20, 2010 1:09:34 pm PDT #723 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

(the problem with silos is that they exist and make my life hell)

(scrum and agile, an the other hand, don't exist, not really)

(back to the status report of hellage)


meara - May 20, 2010 1:15:03 pm PDT #724 of 30001

Mind you, I've ONLY seen the clip on the Maddow show. But what I'm getting is the whole "what can/can't the government say a private business can do" thing. That whole libertarian angle. Where does the rights of a person to have a business and say what goes on there end, and where does the right of the government to say what is allowed in your business start? It's a libertarian thing. At what point does the right of a business owner to say who they serve (many bars have that whole "we reserve the right to kick out who we want" language posted, no?) and what's accessible in their business (his example being guns) stop being OK, and where does the government start "having" to come into it? He's obviously way more on the "the business owner should get to make ALL the decisions" end. And I can see that. I don't AGREE with it, but I can see it.


Kathy A - May 20, 2010 1:23:39 pm PDT #725 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I don't know his other positions, so I suspect from what other people say he's not taking the libertarian thing across all venues, which makes me LESS sympathetic to his position on this one.

He doesn't like government spending, except when it benefits doctors like him.

But on Thursday evening, the ophthalmologist from Bowling Green said there was one thing he would not cut: Medicare physician payments.

In fact, Paul — who says 50% of his patients are on Medicare — wants to end cuts to physician payments under a program now in place called the sustained growth rate, or SGR. “Physicians should be allowed to make a comfortable living.