You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jun 16, 2010 7:17:36 am PDT #6894 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In a way it quintessentially captures the paradox of America on race - racist and anti-racist at the same time.

As does the "What's My Line?" example.


Jessica - Jun 16, 2010 7:23:44 am PDT #6895 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The thing is, however progressive South Pacific may have been for its time, it's still, to me, unwatchable in 2010. The racism is only a part of it - there's also the fact that the tragic love story between Joe and Liat begins with him raping her (with her mother's permission, of course).

I honestly can't think of a single scene that didn't have me cringing in my seat.


Trudy Booth - Jun 16, 2010 7:24:58 am PDT #6896 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Okay fine, racism is also bad because sometimes two unbelievably privileged white people might break up and feel sad for a few weeks.

There is a little bit more to her relationship with the children than that.


Toddson - Jun 16, 2010 7:25:00 am PDT #6897 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I love the gentleman's swan hat

now all he needs is to escort Bjork in he swan dress ...


Typo Boy - Jun 16, 2010 7:26:14 am PDT #6898 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, no feminist paradox there. Its view of woman was one Mae West would have laughed at. Would have, hell. Did. Publicly. In key lines in her films.


lisah - Jun 16, 2010 7:31:45 am PDT #6899 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Today is feh. And I don't know what to get for lunch. What I really want is a big bowl of mashed potatoes. And a nap.


Trudy Booth - Jun 16, 2010 7:32:08 am PDT #6900 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The racism is only a part of it - there's also the fact that the tragic love story between Joe and Liat begins with him raping her (with her mother's permission, of course).

Wait, what ?

I clearly haven't seen this production.


§ ita § - Jun 16, 2010 7:42:43 am PDT #6901 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Given the amount of compliments my outfits with crinolines get, more women should totally wear them. At the very least, the women who compliment them. Today's scooter dress got one in the elevator, which surprised me. I mean, *I* like it, but it's totally accessorised wrong (velvet blazer) and they're not very notable especially when half-covered up.


Jesse - Jun 16, 2010 7:42:53 am PDT #6902 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I just heated up a little TJ's pepperoni pizza for lunch, but something didn't smell right about it, so I chucked it. Ah well.


Jesse - Jun 16, 2010 7:49:06 am PDT #6903 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Fascinating -- my parents' minister just called to wish me Godspeed on the trip. I guess he's good at the pastoral stuff -- I'm not crazy about him or his preaching, but clearly enough people like him, and this kind of thing must be why!