Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Jun 08, 2010 9:12:40 am PDT #5152 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

With the caveat that I have not read the book, I think it is problematic to refer to people who believe in positive thinking as being happy about things.

She's talking about positive thinking in the sense of "I believe $10,000 will appear in my bank account" and the "if you believe it, you receive it" concept. She kind of conflates Norman Vincent Peale, Dale Carnegie and abundance theology, which are very different.


Jesse - Jun 08, 2010 9:18:39 am PDT #5153 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The Secret is a twisted money making thing, on the same level as "be a good Christian and get rich" ministers.

Yeah, absolutely. But even more dangerous, I think.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 08, 2010 9:19:27 am PDT #5154 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Talking about the "Power of Positive Thinking" always makes me flash on Chief Inspector Dreyfus. Ah, the power of childhood moviegoing experiences.


msbelle - Jun 08, 2010 9:19:59 am PDT #5155 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

She kind of conflates Norman Vincent Peale, Dale Carnegie and abundance theology, which are very different.

Yes, very different. Should not be discussed together except to draw distinctions between what different groups consider "positive thinking". Fists of righteous indignation.


beth b - Jun 08, 2010 9:40:46 am PDT #5156 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

When Matt was looking for work a friend suggested that he should stop concentrating on what he didn't want, but he concentrate on what he wanted. That is how I define positive thinking.

DH thinks I am an optimist because I refuse to dwell on the negative possibilities of a situation. How ever, when he comes up with the worst case scenario - I usually have an answer. I have thought of the worst case and come up with a plan. So I don't ignoe the worst case.

Dwelling on the negative possibilities seems to bring people further down. Looking for the best case ( not false positive ) seems to be more forward moving.


Daisy Jane - Jun 08, 2010 9:46:44 am PDT #5157 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

When Matt was looking for work a friend suggested that he should stop concentrating on what he didn't want, but he concentrate on what he wanted. That is how I define positive thinking.

I think that's good as far as it goes, but I also try to think of what I don't want as well. Not thinking about what she didn't/doesn't want has landed a good friend of mine in her last two crappy job situations-which in turn has made her more negative.


Theodosia - Jun 08, 2010 9:58:56 am PDT #5158 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

msbelle, you actually attend Marble Collegiate Church? When I was a kid we always listened to Peale's sermons on the radio, so the actual church seemed a mythical place to me.


lisah - Jun 08, 2010 9:59:24 am PDT #5159 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

My feeling about bodies of water is: ooky squishy bottoms = bad, nice sandy or concrete bottoms = good. I like the ocean and pools, but you may keep your pond.

I am flea. Also good for swimming for me is a quarry because the bottom is to deep to touch (although that idea can be distressing if pondered for too long). For quarrying I need noodles though or some other flotation device.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 08, 2010 10:13:14 am PDT #5160 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

In some positive news, I just sent off my last payment on my car loan! So psyched - even if it was a used car, now it's all mine, Mine, MINE!


Daisy Jane - Jun 08, 2010 10:15:44 am PDT #5161 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Congrats!