I guess we can't speak for general opinion, but we can for ourselves. I am with megan. In my opinion, no.

I think you could pretty much 100% count on some people taking it that way, so it's an argument you would want to frame up very carefully.

Like opening with, "If we ran the world after WWII, and knowing what we know now, what would we have done."

I was wondering if there is any way possible that Helen Thomas was just being old and crotchety, but I just heard the clip and dammit, there's not.

Aww, you're sweet. I found a Clif bar in my desk drawer, so I'm fine until I leave in an hour or so.

I was stuck in a staff meeting from 1 until a bit after 2, and I didn't see your lament until after. I wish I could have been more timely.

Next time, just call me and we'll go to lunch.

Totally true, brenda, with the necessary framing.

Steve and I had a thoroughly interesting discussion with some extremely successful African-Americans (friends of ours, whom we met at a sports bar where we all bonded about Philly teams - Suzi knows one of them, it's Coach B) where they talked about how desegregation was one of the things that actually hurt Black communities. We started talking about the Negro Leagues (and how they provided a lot of success/money/esteem to Black communities but were completely dissolved once MLB accepted Blacks), but it expanded to Philadelphia and other places.

It was fascinating because as a white liberal who went to an inner city HS, it had never occured to me to see segregation as anything but evil. And obviuously it IS evil. But the result, according to Coach B and his brother, was that the successful people left the community for the suburbs, leaving the existing people with no up-close middle class (or rich) folks to model after.

Now *that* is something that I could never bring up without completely framing the discussion because who am I to know? And I don't pretend to. But it was SO interesting. We actually sat and talked for 5 hours, when ostensibly we met at the bar to watch the baseball play-offs.

I remember hearing something like that not to long ago, but the argument wasn't that desegregation was bad, it was that desegregation without providing established black communities with support was a mistake.

Not as bad as what they did to Clue, but still, leave my childhood games alone people!

Wait, what? What did they do to Clue?

That and Miles Borne were my favorite childhood games.

Has anyone listened to This American Life this week? There is a man on there who becomes paralyzed whenever he experiences happiness. It is like a real life Angel, without the soul losing.

Yeah, that was similar to what they were saying.

I almost just deleted my post because I've got to get to work and didn't want to bring up something controversial and then not be here to talk about it.

Wait, what? What did they do to Clue?

They changed the rules to make it easier. You used to have to decide who to ask when you got to a room and made a guess. If the person you asked couldn't help you, that was it. And then you had to remember who you asked, and for what.

I believe now you always go clockwise and ask until you actually see a card.

I believe now you always go clockwise and ask until you actually see a card.

They should rename the dammned game to CLUELESS.