I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Did you want to finish?

Zoe ,'War Stories'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2010 7:52:53 am PDT #3011 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because "no slash" implies that they have a problem with homosexuality (pretty offensive), rather than a problem with reading sex scenes about themselves (totally understandable).

But does it?

I get the bit where people might be up in arms that they are equating slash with explicit, and that's not so, but how does an aversion to a specific pairing imply homophobia?


ehab - Jun 01, 2010 7:53:05 am PDT #3012 of 30001
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

Thanks Jessica. That makes a little more sense now.

ETA: Perhaps if they'd said they'd prefer gen fic?


Jessica - Jun 01, 2010 7:55:56 am PDT #3013 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

but how does an aversion to a specific pairing imply homophobia?

Well, for one, they didn't say "don't slash us," they said "no slash," period. The way it was originally phrased wasn't objecting to a specific pairing, it was objecting to slash in general. (Again, the result of clumsy writing rather than actual intent - Scalzi said later that it didn't occur to either of them that someone might include other characters in the stories.)


tommyrot - Jun 01, 2010 7:56:41 am PDT #3014 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, one of my bosses is out for the week - over the weekend his brother was in a very bad motorcycle accident. They're just waiting to pull the plug.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2010 8:01:11 am PDT #3015 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The way it was originally phrased wasn't objecting to a specific pairing, it was objecting to slash in general. (Again, the result of clumsy writing rather than actual intent - Scalzi said later that it didn't occur to either of them that someone might include other characters in the stories.)

I don't know--I guess it looked right away to me like they were saying "don't slash us" because they were presenting you with two characters (and, honestly, if people submit bestiality, I can't see them winning either), and taking it as far as slash==evol is doing work for them.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2010 8:01:41 am PDT #3016 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

serial:

Oh, tommy, that's horrible.


Dana - Jun 01, 2010 8:03:19 am PDT #3017 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I still can't get to IM at work, which not only interferes with my ability to talk to my coworker down the hall, but deprives me of my normal rage outlet, shrift.


Scrappy - Jun 01, 2010 8:03:21 am PDT #3018 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

That's so sad, Tommy. Also I could say it was not good to read the day before the DH leaves for week-long solo motorcycle tour around Oregon, but who am I kidding--I ALWAYS worry about him when he gets on a bike.


Polter-Cow - Jun 01, 2010 8:04:11 am PDT #3019 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I guess it looked right away to me like they were saying "don't slash us" because they were presenting you with two characters

That's how I took it as well.

taking it as far as slash==evol is doing work for them.

Fandom is nothing if not industrious.


ehab - Jun 01, 2010 8:04:30 am PDT #3020 of 30001
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I too interpreted their meaning the way that ita did. It seems of the good that they are sensitive to the fact that others had another interpretation and re-phrased.