Okay. So. I am doing the great paperwork shuffle, too. And the business stuff is going fine, because I have appropriate places for all that, even if it usually doesn't make it there.

But with the personal stuff...what do you guys do for paper life cycle for like, mail?

If I had the shelf in my entryway, ideally it would run: Mail comes in and goes in a big pile/basked in the entry. Junk mail is sorted out and immediately shredded. Magazines/catalogs go on coffee table shelf until read and recycled after the next one comes in. Personal mail...dunno. Not too much of that. Bills get opened and dealt with and then...what? Filed? Shredded? Work mail goes in the in basket, which then changes over to office flow. Outgoing mail?

I dunno. Right now it all just comes in and sits on the dining room table for months. The SO does the bills, and most of that electronically, so he tends to never open the paper. But the paper says stuff we need to know, sometimes, like, don't pay us any this month. I just don't have a good process flow.

OMG, I'm not sure I even want to save that for when I get home.

JESSE!!!

AHAHAHAHHHAAAHAAA! That. Was. Awesome.

Scola, somebody needs an "It's fucking great," t-shirt.

News just in: difference between what's attractive in men and women. I can't actually get mad at the idea that JT's hands are more conventionally attractive than Madonna's. And, seriously, I want veins like either of theirs. I have perfectly delicate girly veins and they aren't worth shit. But men who look just like women aren't traditionally considered as goodlooking, and neither are women who look just like men. That ain't new. Or sexist....is it?

And I say that as I think that bigger, stronger, fiercer women and softer, gentler men are also attractive.

Oh, god, I need sleep. I've totally confused myself.

If you were common law and had changed your name, they'd just want to see evidence of the name change.

Which would be my passport and old DL which both have the married name, right?

I file paper bills for a year, then shred. I toss junk mail and most catalogues upon entry to the house. I only shred junk mail that has my info on it. For bills I open upon entry and toss envelope and return envelope into recycling immediately. In NY, I would get the mail downstairs and toss unwanted stuff in the recycling bin in the hall before it ever crossed the threshold.

Right now I am drowning in receipts and advertisements. I am wanting to start using quicken or somesuch and so am keeping receipts to enter. Ads, well I get stack 3-4 days a week in the mail. new for me.

I can't actually get mad at the idea that JT's hands are more conventionally attractive than Madonna's.

Me neither. But I'm probably already a "bad" feminist for other reasons...

Good lord. Doing an inventory of untidiness is a great motivator to clean.

I was about to say -- in the time that it took you to write that out you could have cleared half of the stuff

(contemplates how "helping" others makes me feel better about my own dining room table, with has about 4 suit jackets, a pile of mail, some magazines/catalogues, and various other detritus)

I was about to say -- in the time that it took you to write that out you could have cleared half of the stuff

But writing it out was perversely fun!