I know, world in peril and we have to work together. This is my last office romance, I'll tell you that.

Buffy ,'End of Days'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Sep 28, 2010 6:35:10 am PDT #26475 of 30001
Because books.

in a place like France, an overwhelming number of people will self-identify as Catholic but claim not to believe in God.

So it's more of a cultural marker, then?


Jessica - Sep 28, 2010 6:36:27 am PDT #26476 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

There's also the American tradition of holding X, Y, or Z religion because that's what your parents were, or that's what your spouse is. It isn't even a matter of selection, just taking the path of least resistance.

What makes American Christians unusual is that this is much less true here than in Europe (where people tend to belong to the state church by default but not actually give a crap about it). Having no state religion has led to a culture in which people take their religion much more seriously. (The theory I've read regarding this is that people don't tend to respect or trust their governments. So if the government is also the church, this leads to an eventual decline in religiousity. This never happened in the US.)


Calli - Sep 28, 2010 6:43:41 am PDT #26477 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Yeah, the Pew online quiz isn't loading for me, either. Maybe it got bOING bOINGed?


Tom Scola - Sep 28, 2010 6:45:18 am PDT #26478 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Another tornado watch for NYC!


-t - Sep 28, 2010 6:48:59 am PDT #26479 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The quiz loaded fine for me. 15/15, btw.

Yikes on tornados!


tommyrot - Sep 28, 2010 6:52:20 am PDT #26480 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Full-scale, fetishtically detailed driveable replica 1966 Batmobiles

Mark Racop works out of a shop in small-town Indiana, turning out incredibly accurate, driveable 1966 Batmobile replicas. The bodies are modified castings from an old Futura and all the fittings and parts are functional and styled to match the prop Batmobile from the series (you can also buy these individual fittings -- "Bat Parts" -- for your modern car). The sell for $150,000, and you can choose between a rebuilt Ford 460 motor, or a new GM 350 crate engine.


JZ - Sep 28, 2010 6:56:39 am PDT #26481 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Jess, I've read the same theory. And I've also heard Catholic theologians say, over and over, "Separation of church and state was the greatest thing ever to happen to the Church." At least in the US, the thinky Catholics have spent the last half century in a constant state of bogglement at the far right fundamentalist/evangelical movement that wants a churchy state; have these people never cracked a history book?

Of course, the Catholics are now being overrun by the exact same sentiment, the idiots.

I finally got into the quiz, and managed 100%. It was weird to read through it and think about exactly how I came to know the various items. Ramadan? The Marguerite Henry book about the Godolphin Arabian, and the awesomely snarky Muslim guy in my college dorm who would hang out in the lobby waiting for his pizza to arrive after sunset. Buddhism? My freshman year best friend who abandoned college to join the Zen Mountain Monastery. The Sabbath starting on Friday night? My mom's huge collection of 20s-50s paperback quirky comic novels about growing up Jewish in the various boroughs. Shiva? Studying the Cold War and Oppenheimer in AP US History.


Jesse - Sep 28, 2010 6:57:51 am PDT #26482 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

George W. Bush doesn't go to church.

I've only gotten to 7 of the questions, but I'm pretty sure I've gotten them all right, thank goodness.


JZ - Sep 28, 2010 6:58:53 am PDT #26483 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I'm pretty sure the Buffistas are going to average 100% on that quiz, if not higher.


Vortex - Sep 28, 2010 7:01:15 am PDT #26484 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

The quiz loaded initially, but would hang for several tries after I answered the question. After hitting "try again" 3 or 4 time,it moved on to the next question. Then I got an error message that said "We are experiencing technical difficulties and are working to resolve them. Please try again soon." Boo! I was kicking ass!