Ben: I didn't ask for any of this. I just want to be normal. Gronx: I wanted to be an underwear model. We play the hand we're dealt.

'Touched'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


billytea - Sep 20, 2010 1:46:31 pm PDT #25005 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Re the origami discussion, this was a hobby of mine as a teenager. (My favourites were a rather lovely rose, and a stegosaurus that took two hours to fold.) the names of folds within the literature were simple and descriptive, like valley fold and mountain fold.

I don't know what a hamburger fold would be supposed to look like.


Hil R. - Sep 20, 2010 1:46:52 pm PDT #25006 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

She's also the person with whom I had this conversation when I was a teenager. (This was at the dinner table, and my mother had made it very clear to me when I first went vegetarian at age 13 that statements like "beef is dead cow" are NOT appropriate for the table, so I was trying to be polite and phrase all of this in dinner-table-appropriate ways.)

Her: Why are you vegetarian?

Me: For animal rights reasons.

Her: But what does that mean?

Me: Uh? I care about the animals?

Her: But what does that have to do with being vegetarian?

Me, glancing over at my mom for silent permission to be a bit more explicit, because this is just getting frustrating: I don't think it's right to kill animals for food when I can survive perfectly well with doing that.

Her: But what animals are killed?


Vortex - Sep 20, 2010 1:47:39 pm PDT #25007 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

If you eat gluten free but once in a while decide you really want a pancake, well, it's not my job to police your choices or consistency or whatev. It is my job to respect your stated restrictions as best I can.

exactly, but if I'm respecting your stated restrictions, and you're ignoring what has been done (i.e. claiming that "all" margarine has dairy), then I can't help you.


Sue - Sep 20, 2010 1:54:11 pm PDT #25008 of 30001
hip deep in pie

Thanks for all the birthday wishes. I've had a lovely, low-key birthday. I cannot quite get over that I am 41. I am so much more immature than that number!

I have lived with vegetarians and vegans and think nothing of accomodating them. And I know so many people with Celiac that I usually make sure there's something gluten free too.

I eat nothing from the sea and am not afraid to declare it. Though I have choked it down on occasion to be polite. I do try it every once in a while...

Hil, your cousin reminds me of my crazy ex Best friend who was a vegetarian and developed food allergies as it suited her. It turns out she was hiding an eating disorder from everyone. It kind of came to a head at a birthday dinner her Boyfriend's mom had cooked and when she brought out the cake, she made a point of saying that she had made a white cake, since my friend was allergic to chocolate. Me, being drunk and kind of shocked by that statement blurted out, "WHAT? But she eat my chocolate chip cookies ALL THE TIME." It got a little awkward because the boyfriend's family very much wanted to ignore the little lie and kept making excuses, and me being drunk, kept poking hole in all the excuses and wouldn't let it drop.

Also, I learned to type putting book titles in a database so I do tend to Capitalize the Important Words without realizing it.


Hil R. - Sep 20, 2010 1:54:55 pm PDT #25009 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

(Most brands of margarine and "buttery spread" type things do have some dairy in them. Fleischmann's, Willow Run, and Earth Balance do not. I prefer Earth Balance, because it tastes the best. My mom prefers Fleischmann's, because it's available at most regular grocery stores.)


Typo Boy - Sep 20, 2010 2:20:48 pm PDT #25010 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Hi Hil. Somehow I had the impression you were vegan. So you will eat dairy? Is that just a non-purist-thing because buttery spreads don't have much dairy, or will you eat stuff with significant amounts of milk and cheese?


Hil R. - Sep 20, 2010 2:25:09 pm PDT #25011 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I am vegan. (Well, except for honey, but that's another discussion.) The three brands of margarine I mentioned are the ones that don't have dairy.


§ ita § - Sep 20, 2010 2:29:05 pm PDT #25012 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We just had the big go-live-success celebration.

Sheeit. That was a big go live. And I went live with a hospital once. I kinda got teary.

Spent some time "bonding" with the chick with the name like mine. Now she can be on the lookout for the guy who thinks he's spoken to her. She has also not been party to this sort of confusion before.


Spidra Webster - Sep 20, 2010 2:30:17 pm PDT #25013 of 30001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

I'm glad you're getting to celebrate. Nice catharsis.


Sue - Sep 20, 2010 2:32:56 pm PDT #25014 of 30001
hip deep in pie

Congrats ita.