Now you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear by my pretty flowered bonnet, I will end you.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


megan walker - Jul 29, 2010 9:33:59 am PDT #15248 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

DH wants to know if he can use the word rigueur on its own (rather than as part of the expression "de rigueur," and if so what the precise meaning would be. (In context, he needs it to mean something like "discipline.") He's reviewing Dinner For Schmucks and talking about the original French version.

I was at the eye doctor.

You can definitely use it on its own. The most common way I've heard it is à la rigueur, meaning possibly/possibility, or at the very least.

Come to think of it, I've rarely heard the expression as it's used in English.

It often implies a more extreme discipline (harshness or austerity), as in government measures or punishments, but you can say manquer de rigueur for something that lacks discipline or precision. So, in an academic setting, someone's research might "manquer de rigueur."


megan walker - Jul 29, 2010 9:35:40 am PDT #15249 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Also, note to E: I was very disappointed that in this remake there actually is a dinner.


meara - Jul 29, 2010 9:50:05 am PDT #15250 of 30001

flea, I was just reading an article at the Tribune which said that Chicago will be breaking a record this afternoon with the most consecutive days over 80 degrees. The last day we had with a high only in the 70s was July 1st.

OMG, I'm so glad I was there when I was, then! ...and that I now live where I do. And had to turn on the heat in my car this morning, cause it was freezing. Low of 56. High 78, but since it's noon and telling me its 58, I disbelieve.


Jessica - Jul 29, 2010 9:53:56 am PDT #15251 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It often implies a more extreme discipline (harshness or austerity), as in government measures or punishments, but you can say manquer de rigueur for something that lacks discipline or precision. So, in an academic setting, someone's research might "manquer de rigueur."

Thanks! That's perfect for the context of this sentence. (Basically, that the American remake is kind of all over the place whereas the original was a tightly plotted farce.)

As to your second point, he agrees.


Beverly - Jul 29, 2010 9:55:46 am PDT #15252 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'm pretty sure I didn't know traffic signs had words on them.

Individual leaves on trees--I knew they were there, of course, I'd seen leaves up close, held detatched ones in my hands. But I had no idea you could (or should) actually see individual ones on a tree across the street. Revelation, age 10!

stuff-oriented

I think this gets worse when young kids lose a parent, lose the family they've known, lose the home they're familiar with. They get clutchy with physical objects under their control, demanding about acquiring more. It's attempting to fill a gap they can't even articulate, sometimes, and almost certainly can't correlate for themselves. A's been dealing with it for five of his ten years, and is only now beginning to get a tiny bit of a handle on it. It may be something he struggles with into and all through his adulthood. But he's at least aware of the causes of it. Maybe talking with M about why he feels the need to amass "stuff" might help.


Zenkitty - Jul 29, 2010 9:59:02 am PDT #15253 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Individual leaves on trees--I knew they were there, of course, I'd seen leaves up close, held detatched ones in my hands. But I had no idea you could (or should) actually see individual ones on a tree across the street.

Oh, this was my exact revelation! I remember staring at trees all amazed and going oh that's what it's supposed to look like! I was five.


Strix - Jul 29, 2010 10:01:10 am PDT #15254 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I totally agree with you, Bev. I just don't want him to correlate things with affection. He gets lots and lots and lots of affection, but I can see how he is starting to get the "gotta have it" bug.

I think quite a bit of it is societal, and he does a great job of using his imagination when playing -- he spent a whole bunch of...ooops, they're back! Gotta go get the glasses lowdown!

Finish thought later.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2010 10:01:30 am PDT #15255 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Seriously? I only just heard that he got married. (Orlando Bloom, that is.)

I think that just happened a few weeks ago. Hussy.


Kathy A - Jul 29, 2010 10:01:51 am PDT #15256 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I don't remember the first time I wore glasses, but I do still have my first pair (tiny little granny glasses from 1971). I probably should see what the prescription was in them and see how bad my eyes actually were!

I'm just amazed that I was able to teach myself how to read before I got my glasses. Thank goodness for big print in children's picture books.


megan walker - Jul 29, 2010 10:02:01 am PDT #15257 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I got my glasses sophmore year of college. And that's when I realized that Impressionism was more than just a popular art style of the day, but rather how I was living my life.