If every vampire who said he was at the crucifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock.

Spike ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Beverly - Jul 22, 2010 2:47:41 pm PDT #14166 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh, JZ, now I'm imagning that, too. Tiny heaven!


JZ - Jul 22, 2010 2:47:43 pm PDT #14167 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

One of my former supervisors once met a guy at Harvard who had grown up in NYC's Chinatown, the only child of an immigrant family who was determined that he would Make Good if it killed them all; even though literally no adults in his neighborhood spoke English and he was the only English speaker in his family, his parents forbade him to learn Chinese because he had to be an American or else, even though it meant none of them could really understand each other.

He grew up speaking fluent English with a strong Chinese accent that he could not train himself out of no matter how he tried. Apparently at not quite twenty he was already deeply tired of having to explain that no, he couldn't translate for you and yes, he knew he had the accent but no, he really couldn't speak Chinese.


Beverly - Jul 22, 2010 2:49:09 pm PDT #14168 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh, that's just tragic. O'Henry sort of tragic.


-t - Jul 22, 2010 2:55:00 pm PDT #14169 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

My dad immigrated at age 5 and learned English in Elementary school via immersion and luck has no accent (or, I suppose, a California accent) but his younger brother who must have been 3 when they got here has quite a strong Russian accent. So IDK.


sarameg - Jul 22, 2010 3:09:58 pm PDT #14170 of 30001

My dad was born in this country, but because he grew up in a swedish community here (to immigrant parents,) he didn't pronounce his Js until he went to college.

My grandmother came here at 12 and had a slight accent. My grandfather, 21, and he always had a hard time with english, and had a very heavy accent.

Today was really not worth it. I was in some weird mental fog all day, and really unable to interact with people. Then, at a retirement party, my nose went all bionic and I could smell EVERYTHING. The deodorant people were wearing, their shampoo, the detergent they washed their clothes in, their sweat, what they had for lunch, their breath from 5 feet away. And some nasty pervasive smell of crap. It was completely overwhelming and revolting and I had to leave.

And then the cramps started.

And you guys talked forever about the disposable temporary organ you aren't born with!


smonster - Jul 22, 2010 3:10:36 pm PDT #14171 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

"And apparently, clowns kill."

Bev, I don't think I knew H was Ukrainian! Kewl.

bonny, never Skyped, wish I could help.

I managed to screw up a frittata, IDEK. But! I always put Frankie in "place" when I eat, especially since I eat on the couch; tonight he put himself in place! Goooood boy.


Kathy A - Jul 22, 2010 3:14:32 pm PDT #14172 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'm trying to remember if my Swedish grandpa pronounced his Js. I think he did, but he did have the most appealing lilt to his voice. He always called his granddaughters "my little sweetheart," and he said it in such a beautiful voice, saying "sweetheart" like "sweethot."

He came over from Lulea when he was in his late teens and lived outside of the Swedish neighborhoods, so he lost most of the stereotypical Swede accent early on.


beekaytee - Jul 22, 2010 3:15:50 pm PDT #14173 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

bonny, never Skyped, wish I could help.

Thanks Hon.

I'm just frustrated because it seemed like such an easy thing to use...and yet, fail.

dcp suggested google video chat. Which also looks easy, but may only work with gmail accounts. Ack.

Where is my flying car and the tech person to make it go?!

On topic, I believe my great grandparents came here from Ireland via England. While none of us have anything but California accents, I get a lot of comments about Anglo-isms in my vocabulary. I trace this back to my great aunt, who called me Pet, and spoke very proper English, with zero accent, despite spending most of her teens in Mississippi.

eta to add the salient point about accents.


Strix - Jul 22, 2010 3:20:02 pm PDT #14174 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

bonny, I have skype, so if you want to play around without, you know, a client, I'm more than happy to help.


§ ita § - Jul 22, 2010 3:21:45 pm PDT #14175 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You don't have to eat what comes out of your cootch.