I have an entirely different sort of question.
For (older) immigrant children, how young do they generally have to have immigrated to have no discernible accent? If they're in a place without a large population speaking their first language?
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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
DebetEsse - Jul 22, 2010 1:20:05 pm PDT #14123 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Hil R. - Jul 22, 2010 1:22:41 pm PDT #14124 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I know some people who immigrated around age 10 and had very little of the accent of their first language, and others who immigrated around age 6 and had a very strong accent.
Steph L. - Jul 22, 2010 1:24:11 pm PDT #14125 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
My fave is the guy in the Bender costume holding a sign saying "Kill All Humans".
And "All Glory to the Hypno-Toad!"
I'm a little disappointed there weren't any Klingons, though.
Sheryl - Jul 22, 2010 1:25:32 pm PDT #14126 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
Timelies all!
Gotta pack for Confluence tonight. Not that that's terribly hard. (It's just a matter of deciding which t-shirts to bring, and which earrings to go with them. Toss in some jeans, socks and underwear, and voila!)
Typo Boy - Jul 22, 2010 1:25:44 pm PDT #14127 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Much variance. I know a woman of Indian ethnic background (sorry don't know which subgroup) who lived in Africa until she was six, London from 6-13, and U.S. from 13 forward. She spoke Swahili as a girl, but did not retain a word by the time I met her in her 20s. She has never lost a slight British accent, not strong, but noticeable.
Steph L. - Jul 22, 2010 1:26:16 pm PDT #14128 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
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Oh, my. God loves gay Robins. That's AWESOME.
DavidS - Jul 22, 2010 1:27:53 pm PDT #14129 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Oh, my. God loves gay Robins. That's AWESOME.
I thought of you immediately when I saw that.
Your beau should be Gay Robin for Halloween.
Cashmere - Jul 22, 2010 1:28:58 pm PDT #14130 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.
The Bender costume wins, hands down.
Strix - Jul 22, 2010 1:29:24 pm PDT #14131 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
There are those same sorts of feelings over practically any pain-relieving drug. "Strong" people are supposed to be able to "tough it out."
And I understand that there are risks, but for so many centuries under Catholic doctrine, women were explicitly PROHIBITED from receiving any palliatives during childbirth, because they needed to feel the pain during childbirth that God had mandated for Eve's sins.
I think the message that the author is trying to convey, albeit a bit confusedly, is that women should have some authority over their experience during birth. Which I completely agree with.
§ ita § - Jul 22, 2010 1:29:26 pm PDT #14132 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
For (older) immigrant children, how young do they generally have to have immigrated to have no discernible accent? If they're in a place without a large population speaking their first language?
I'm sure it entirely depends on many factors, like the language, and the environment they're in--if it's predominantly foreign language at home and socially, they may have a stronger accent. Assuming, of course you only mean immigrants from places with foreign languages.
I know Jamaicans that never lost theirs, but I dropped my Canadian accent from age 4, my Jamaican from age 12, my British from age 18. Uh, entirely possible I'm just not sticky.