Giles: I'm sure we're all perfectly safe. Dawn: We're safe. Right. And Spike built a robot Buffy to play checkers with. Tara: It sounded convincing when I thought it.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


smonster - Jul 21, 2010 12:56:43 pm PDT #13855 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Ginger, yes, that's the latest. See also Van Jones, ACORN, and reacting instead of leading on a million different things. Healthcare, welfare, patriot act, gay marriage, abortion... I stand by my vote for Obama, but I am becoming increasingly disillusioned and despondant. I know it's a hard job, but I think he's missed some key opportunities to shift our national debate. And race is one of those big areas.

I'm just tired.


Nora Deirdre - Jul 21, 2010 12:58:19 pm PDT #13856 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Because we live in an age where calling bullshit, bullshit is the height of incivility.

I recall craxyness following Obama's eyerolling reaction to the Cambridge cop arresting Louis Gates Jr. in his own home. He called the incident/cop stupid and had to settle it with that fucking Beer Summit.


smonster - Jul 21, 2010 1:00:45 pm PDT #13857 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Or what Gud said. Gandhi may have said to make our enemies our allies, but it wasn't via compromising one's own values.


brenda m - Jul 21, 2010 1:02:32 pm PDT #13858 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Her father was murdered by the KKK, and she wasn't with the USDA at the time she was speaking of. She was working at a non-profit that helped black farmers. In fact, working against some of the USDA's more racist policies.

Yes, thanks for the clarification.

Most of the speech is about her own history and journey. She seems quite awesome, and a great candidate for a civil rights position anyway.

TNC's link is here. [link] The story causing the furor is at about minutes 17 to 20.


Steph L. - Jul 21, 2010 1:02:37 pm PDT #13859 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Sherrod said she might not want her job back anyway considering how she'd been treated, and at least now she'd have some free time to hang out with that couple on their farm because she was long overdue for a visit

Heh. Nicely done.


Daisy Jane - Jul 21, 2010 1:03:01 pm PDT #13860 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

And calling the cop stupid was the exact same as if Obama had had the cop arrested in his home for being white and not showing ID.

Just like Sherrod's lack of enthusiasm for helping a white farmer who she felt was talking down to her is the exact same thing as institutional racism by whites against blacks.

Fuck the lot of 'em. I have no use.

TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


JZ - Jul 21, 2010 1:03:22 pm PDT #13861 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Because we live in an age where calling bullshit, bullshit is the height of incivility.

Also, there is no greater crime than calling racist actions racist (the whole thing got started because the NAACP stated -- horrors! -- that some Tea Party members are racists; Breitbart said in an interview with Sean Hannity, summarized here on the NPR website -- damned if I'm going to link to Fox News -- that he was gunning for the NAACP for its evil, evil use of the word "racism," and he didn't actually care about Sherrod one way or the other).


Nora Deirdre - Jul 21, 2010 1:05:39 pm PDT #13862 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

(the whole thing got started because the NAACP stated -- horrors! -- that some Tea Party members are racists; Breitbart said in an interview with Sean Hannity, summarized here on the NPR website -- damned if I'm going to link to Fox News -- that he was gunning for the NAACP for its evil, evil use of the word "racism," and he didn't actually care about Sherrod one way or the other).

I'm happy to be spending most of this week drinking heavily, I think.


smonster - Jul 21, 2010 1:07:56 pm PDT #13863 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Right, DJ. Individual bigotry Is exactly the same as intitutionalized racism. ISTG, the stupid not only burns but will burn us all.


smonster - Jul 21, 2010 1:10:16 pm PDT #13864 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Nora, not a day goes by I don't wish I was down there with you. I have got to get my shit together.