Mal: Take your people and go. Captain: You would have done the same. Mal: We can already see I haven't.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - Jul 15, 2010 11:04:21 am PDT #12637 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

A coworker discusses Comi-Con [link]


Lee - Jul 15, 2010 11:14:50 am PDT #12638 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Cool photo from Leonard Nimoy's twitter [link]


smonster - Jul 15, 2010 11:17:44 am PDT #12639 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

OMG so much to respond to.

I'd like to start composting, but I don't have room for a huge compost bin - too much of my yard is sloped too steeply to put anything on. Anyone know of a small, one-person's-garbage-worth composter?

How do you feel about worms? You can set up a bin in a rubbermaid storage container pretty easily. They are low maintenance, don't smell, consume veggie waste/tea bags/coffee quite happily but forgive you if you forget to feed them. Main problem is occasional fruit fly issues, but those are pretty easily preventable/resolvable.

Worm castings only need to be harvested once a year or so, and if you know someone who wants their one bin, you can get them to help you in exchange for some of the worms. You could even sell the castings - they are like compost gold.

Here's a good primer: [link]

Let me note that if worms make you go "uggh," then I certainly don't judge.

Quite correct that waste production is a small part of one's footprint.

Plastic bags do gum up recycling equipment.

Waxed paper is compostable, but takes longer to break down so you might not want to try it in your backyard bin. Plastic-coated paper is, of course, not compostable.

What pictures and words are on the labels are generally CAREFULLY selected. You don't want to get the pictures wrong, especially b/c of literacy and language issues.

Reduce-reuse-recycle is not just a catchy motto, it's a hierarchy.

Pay-as-you-throw is wonderful for giving people incentives to reduce their waste. Unfortunately, it also tends to increase illegal dumping; for example, UNC owns/pays for over 100 dumpsters and we already have an issue with household garbage in our dumpsters. If our county went to PAYT I'm sure it would spike, at least initially. (Note I am not arguing for or against, just pointing it out)

Recycling varies widely across the country not just because of political leanings, but markets. However, legislation requiring recycling can also help create markets.

Nora, I ain't gonna lie, the lack of recycling in NOLA is a factor in my complex "should I move?" matrix.

While Zero Waste is a statistical improbability, I do love it as a guiding precept. It's like an asymptote - you can never reach Zero Waste, but it'd be good to see how close we can get. There's a saying which I think originated at Berkeley's Ecology Center - "If it can’t be reduced, reused, repaired, rebuilt, refurbished, refinished, resold, recycled, or com-posted, then it should be restricted, redesigned, or removed from production" - and I dig it.

There are a growing number of corporations embracing the Zero Waste model or a variation thereof, notably Toyota, Suburu, and Interface (they make carpet).

I don't generally give people shit in their house, they just get defensive b/c they know me.


Aims - Jul 15, 2010 11:20:04 am PDT #12640 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I don't generally give people shit in their house, they just get defensive b/c they know me.

I would totally change everything in my house before you came to visit. Hee.


amych - Jul 15, 2010 11:20:43 am PDT #12641 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

:: wonders if nomming spicy smonster brains counts as reuse or recycle ::


Aims - Jul 15, 2010 11:22:53 am PDT #12642 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

::I would thing reuse - brain was for thinking, now it's for nomming::


ehab - Jul 15, 2010 11:30:21 am PDT #12643 of 30001
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

Wow, smonster, that was great.

Waxed paper is compostable, but takes longer to break down so you might not want to try it in your backyard bin. Plastic-coated paper is, of course, not compostable.

I am curious about this statement. I've heard milk cartons are actually plastic lined. Do you know how accurate that is? Is it only some? Just the ones with plastic pourtops perhaps?

Also, what are your thoughts on [link] It's probably not so good in that what it does can easily be accomplished with worms and no electricity. The no odors and composting of meat is appealing though.


Tom Scola - Jul 15, 2010 11:33:26 am PDT #12644 of 30001
They pay me in WOIMS

BP says oil has stopped leaking into the Gulf for the first time since April.

The pessimist in me says that it won't last. Let's hope I'm wrong.


Aims - Jul 15, 2010 11:33:34 am PDT #12645 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Reports are coming out that the leak in the Gulf has been stopped. They still have to watch it and stuff, but looks good so far.


Aims - Jul 15, 2010 11:33:48 am PDT #12646 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Look at those great minds, thinking alike.