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'Underneath'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - May 15, 2010 4:40:30 am PDT #29549 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Oh kat, I feel for you.

He has moved passed anger, that was at 3am when he figured things out initially and woke me up. Now he is more resigned and trying to manipulate his way out of it by giving hugs and doe eyes and then offering up "can I get what I want if I just do this?" Yeah no. Part of his lesson for this weekend is full understanding of mom "sticking to her guns".


Jesse - May 15, 2010 4:41:49 am PDT #29550 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Stay strong, msbelle.


Kat - May 15, 2010 4:45:12 am PDT #29551 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

oh msbelle. Wow. I am really sorry that you have to go through this.

Amy, I went to a Catholic all girl's school run by the Sisters of Notre Dame. In some ways, they were a radical order because that had initially disobeyed the Diocese's order about where to establish themselves and what do do and so they operate somewhat outside of the Diocese itself. Anyhow, I think going to that high school really taught me to question my own assumptions, to be devil's advocate and to really try to maintain and multi-perspective place. It makes me a contrarian in lots of ways because I'll argue 8 sides of an argument, but it also allows me to slow down, even when I'm really rage, and make an effort to see a second side.


Amy - May 15, 2010 4:51:29 am PDT #29552 of 30001
Because books.

What Jesse said, msbelle. And fingers crossed for you.

It makes me a contrarian in lots of ways because I'll argue 8 sides of an argument, but it also allows me to slow down, even when I'm really rage, and make an effort to see a second side.

Good skills to have. But I would be wrathful, too.


Theodosia - May 15, 2010 4:52:12 am PDT #29553 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

That's some valuable training, truly.

I feel I was lucky that my family sort of defaulted to a low-church Presbyterian church because more or less it was near our home. At least the way our Pastor taught it, faith requires a lot of questioning and thought, and personal salvation is a private struggle.


Jesse - May 15, 2010 4:55:37 am PDT #29554 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Man, I love American culture. I'm watching this Christina Aguilera video on VH1, and they put something over her hands when she gives the camera the finger. Writhing around in latex and masks and gags and everything else? Fine. Straddling various men and women? Fine. No nips showing, so it must be OK. Middle finger up? VULGAR!!!


Amy - May 15, 2010 4:59:45 am PDT #29555 of 30001
Because books.

Jesse, in the Nickelback video on earlier, they bleeped something about the weeds in the backyard, and I assume it was the word "smoked". WTF?


Jesse - May 15, 2010 5:03:53 am PDT #29556 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

THE CHILDREN!! We couldn't have something on the teevee about smoking weed!


Kat - May 15, 2010 5:04:36 am PDT #29557 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I'm not saying that I'm holier than thou, or that I'm not well and truly wrathful about this. It's just funny to figure out why I am willing to acknowledge that there are other circumstances too.


Amy - May 15, 2010 5:12:41 am PDT #29558 of 30001
Because books.

It's just funny to figure out why I am willing to acknowledge that there are other circumstances too.

Oh, I agree! I didn't mean to imply you were holier than thou. I can do the devil's advocate thing pretty well, just not usually when it comes to something intensely personal. At least not until after the fact.

THE CHILDREN!! We couldn't have something on the teevee about smoking weed!

As if! Of course, it was clearly fine that every single woman in the video was in a bikini and uniformly one size-two shape. Blech.