I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly is a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Jan 20, 2010 7:19:22 am PST #2910 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

WWII.

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Operation Torch

Operation Torch (initially called Operation Gymnast) was the British-American invasion of French North Africa in World War II during the North African Campaign, started 8 November 1942.

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Casablanca was the principal French Atlantic naval base after German occupation of the European coast. The Naval Battle of Casablanca resulted from a sortie of French cruisers, destroyers, and submarines to oppose the landings. A cruiser, six destroyers, and six submarines were destroyed by American gunfire and aircraft. The unfinished battleship Jean Bart, which was docked and immobile, fired on the landing force with her one working gun turret until disabled by American gunfire. Two American destroyers were damaged.


Gudanov - Jan 20, 2010 7:19:39 am PST #2911 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

WWII

Was France the first military the U.S. fought against in WWII aside from Japan? I was thinking that might be the case.


tommyrot - Jan 20, 2010 7:22:59 am PST #2912 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Was France the first military the U.S. fought against in WWII aside from Japan? I was thinking that might be the case.

Actually, Germany was the first military the U.S. fought, even before Japan. There were several times the U.S. navy fought German U-boats, even before the U.S. entered the war.


§ ita § - Jan 20, 2010 7:23:28 am PST #2913 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My history knowledge is sorely lacking (I think my schooling stopped somewhere with the 18th century material), but there was no way I was guessing that.

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Gudanov - Jan 20, 2010 7:25:10 am PST #2914 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

I was thinking more of an operation, rather that incidents.


tommyrot - Jan 20, 2010 7:27:39 am PST #2915 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

but there was no way I was guessing that.

Yeah, it's weird and not very well known, considering that France was our ally during the war.

Another weird thing - when France was about to fall to Germany, the British navy destroyed a number of French warships (with French sailors still in them) to prevent them from falling into German hands. The French were rather angry at the British for this. This is why the U.S. navy lead the invasion of Casablanca instead of the British navy - the U.S. naively believed the French would not fire on them.


Amy - Jan 20, 2010 7:31:06 am PST #2916 of 30001
Because books.

Yeah, it's weird and not very well known, considering that France was our ally during the war.

I had no idea about that.

Thanks for the link, ita.


Kathy A - Jan 20, 2010 7:33:23 am PST #2917 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

There were several times the U.S. navy fought German U-boats, even before the U.S. entered the war.

Have you heard of the ship called the good Reuben James
Manned by hard fighting men both of honor and fame
She flew the Stars and Stripes of the land of the free
But tonight she's in her grave at the bottom of the sea


javachik - Jan 20, 2010 7:38:34 am PST #2918 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Tommy, I've seen a movie that had the situation you mention and now I will hunt teh interwebs to figure out which one it was.

I can't discuss the cat thing.


megan walker - Jan 20, 2010 7:39:12 am PST #2919 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

The French were rather angry at the British for this.

Killing 1300 people when you're not at war will do that sometimes.