Whoa! I... I think I'm having a thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a thought. Now I'm having a plan. Now I'm having a wiggins.

Xander ,'First Date'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - May 05, 2010 6:01:25 am PDT #27407 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Should the people have to worry about how it looks when they go grocery shopping? Or just how it is? Because it could have been a brother taking his sister grocery shopping or any one of a hundred things, and I am not sure someone should have to think through how it "looks bad" before they accept a ride.

Also, I think almost no one would be on WIC to "beat" the system, because WIC is an enormous PAIN IN THE ASS that nets you milk, formula, cereal, cheese, juice, beans, peanut butter, eggs and fruit. With enormous restrictions on the size and type you can buy.


Gudanov - May 05, 2010 6:04:17 am PDT #27408 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Should the people have to worry about how it looks when they go grocery shopping?

I meant it more as a commentary on me than on them. The power of the anecdote is strong even though there are, like you said, a hundred reasonable scenarios. If I was a righty instead of a lefty, I wonder if I would search for the reasonable or just take it as confirmation that government is wasting money on people who abuse the system.


Aims - May 05, 2010 6:05:39 am PDT #27409 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Sophia - nah, they shouldn't have to worry about it. It's one of those irrational pings. For me, anyway. But then, working with DHS so much in previous jobs and helping people to get qualified for benefits, I've seen some people try to pull some major shit to get any benefit they feel they deserve. I'm all for a hand up and help when people need it, but I hate it when people abuse the system. So when I see someone pay for their food with government benefits and then get into a car newer than mine when I don't qualify for anything on my paltry salary or Joe's unemployment, I get pinged. Like I say, it's not rational or right, it's just a feeling.


sarameg - May 05, 2010 6:05:44 am PDT #27410 of 30001

Or it could be the car is the one damned thing they have paid off, and they have no ready income right now. There was an article in the Washington Post a while back profiling families in just such circumstances. I think one was very close to being homeless.


lisah - May 05, 2010 6:09:37 am PDT #27411 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Yeah, you just never know what someone's circumstances are. I was trying to explain that to a co-worker the other day who was complaining about unemployment benefits being extended. He thought the time you get unemployment should be shortened and that you should have savings to support you if you lost your job. And that if you hadn't found a job in a year (or whatever) you just weren't trying. @@


tommyrot - May 05, 2010 6:10:48 am PDT #27412 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, today's xkcd is funny: Cemetery


Aims - May 05, 2010 6:10:53 am PDT #27413 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

@@ indeed. The uncertainty of Joe's unemployment continuing is why when we moved, I made damn sure we could pay everything with my paycheck alone. God knows what we'd do if I God forbid lost my job.


lisah - May 05, 2010 6:13:25 am PDT #27414 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

My point was just because you were able to easily find jobs and you are able to have enough savings to support your family doesn't mean everyone can and it doesn't make them bad people! A medical crisis can drain anyone's savings quickly even if you have decent insurance, for example.


Fred Pete - May 05, 2010 6:17:56 am PDT #27415 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

you should have savings to support you if you lost your job

This is the sort of thing that pings me. In an ideal world, yeah, everybody would have enough income to put something aside after paying all the necessities.

Yeah, I'd like to join lisah's co-worker in that world. I just live in the real one, where things don't work out that way.


Gudanov - May 05, 2010 6:18:25 am PDT #27416 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

I wonder how much news that does confirm my political narrative I take without rethinking. I think I try to give things consideration, which is why I totally suck in political arguments, I don't like to assert or dismiss things unless I know my view can be backed up. I'm sure there are things I swallow too easily though.