I just think it's rather odd that a nation that prides itself on its virility should feel compelled to strap on forty pounds of protective gear just in order to play rugby.

Giles ,'Beneath You'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - May 04, 2010 11:04:12 am PDT #27293 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

That is a great baseball story.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 04, 2010 11:24:29 am PDT #27294 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't see how someone is a jackass because their agreed-upon, out in the open expectations of a non-romantic relationship conflict with the unvoiced expectations of the other party.


brenda m - May 04, 2010 11:33:05 am PDT #27295 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I wouldn't say so. Or, to be more exact:

Because at some point... I'd want the relationship to change. And it's not fair to him because we would have agreed to be friends, so it would be unreasonable to get upset with him if he was hitting on other women or didn't want to stay for breakfast.

No jackass.

whenever I got a little bitchy with him it was all "you're pissed because you want to go out with me, right?"

Jackass.


Daisy Jane - May 04, 2010 11:35:23 am PDT #27296 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Because it can often be more complicated than that. I am big on bright clear lines of expectations, but I can totally see a guy (or girl) making the FWB seem like that's the situation because he (or she) isn't ready for a relationship, not that they don't want a relationship with a specific person.


Polter-Cow - May 04, 2010 11:50:21 am PDT #27297 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

There was that Dane Cook/Jessica Alba movie.

Yeah! I think that's what I was thinking of. I knew that exact concept had come up recently.


Vortex - May 04, 2010 11:52:36 am PDT #27298 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Because it can often be more complicated than that.

true. But if everyone has been honest*, none of these situations mean that the guy is a jackass.

*admittedly, sometimes feelings change in the course of things, and what you agreed to isn't necessarily what's happening.


Gudanov - May 04, 2010 11:57:30 am PDT #27299 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

To me, FWB implies I don't want a relationship with you and it's hard for me see how that doesn't turn toxic at some point.


Vortex - May 04, 2010 11:59:23 am PDT #27300 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

One of my FWBs was an issue because he basically wanted a girlfriend, except when he didn't. He would call to talk about his day, pay for dinner, make me breakfast, cuddle, etc. But then when he felt like having sex with someone else, he did and fell back on the "we're just friends with benefits". I was confused because I thought he wanted our relationship to change with all of the boyfriend behavior, while he thought that we had a defined FWB relationship so he could do what he wanted.


lisah - May 04, 2010 12:07:30 pm PDT #27301 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

To me, FWB implies I don't want a relationship with you and it's hard for me see how that doesn't turn toxic at some point.

I don't think it necessarily means "I don't want a relationship" so much as "I don't want a monogamous boyfriend/girlfriend (or boyfriend/boyfriend, girlfriend/girlfriend) relationship with you."

It's not something I ever did but I think there are people who can have this sort of relationship without it turning toxic. It may not be a long-term thing (but who knows) but I don't think it, by it's nature, needs to end with bad feelings on either side.


ChiKat - May 04, 2010 12:11:39 pm PDT #27302 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Oh, I'm not referencing any particular people, just the tumbleweeds blowing through my love life on a general basis.

My sistah in the weeds. It's dry and dusty out here.

To me, FWB implies I don't want a relationship with you and it's hard for me see how that doesn't turn toxic at some point.

Not necessarily. I had a friend, not a close friend just a friend, that we both knew we weren't right for a dating relationship, but we had great chemistry. We had a FWB understanding that we were both cool with. Never turned toxic. I started dating someone, it became serious, and we backed off the B part. He started dating someone. Then we lost touch.