You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Apr 28, 2010 4:54:21 am PDT #25749 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, you guys, I totally used cheese as an analogy in defending my love of crappy music last night. Just because I like plastic-wrapped cheese product slices doesn't mean I would try to convince anyone that they are good! Ditto much of my music collection. On the flip side, I like excellent examples of both things as well. Good times.


Amy - Apr 28, 2010 4:56:29 am PDT #25750 of 30001
Because books.

On the flip side, I like excellent examples of both things as well. Good times.

Exactly! Brie and Velveeta both have their place. As do Mozart and Madonna.


Theodosia - Apr 28, 2010 4:58:05 am PDT #25751 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Sophia, even if you send back either questionnaire, you may get a visit anyway, because they'll want to have somebody verifying that there isn't a second apartment at that address.

However, don't worry about your odd hours. If a Census enumerator calls when you're not home, they'll leave a phone number, so call them and explain you won't be able to be home between those hours on a weekday. Then they can either choose to phone interview you (not preferred by the Census but acceptable if there's no other way), set up so that someone will come early or very late (hey, they're PAID for travel time, too, so they may not mind), or arrange for a weekend interview.

Mostly though, it should be at your convenience.


Steph L. - Apr 28, 2010 5:03:41 am PDT #25752 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Gah, I'm so angry. This morning, NPR had a commentary by Frank Deford about Ben Roethlisberger, and how ridiculous it is to hold athletes to "higher standards" than the rest of society.

Um, asking him to NOT SEXUALLY ASSAULT women isn't actually a "higher standard." It's pretty much the bare minimum of human decency.

I'm seriously going to write them a letter. That's bullshit, man.


Jesse - Apr 28, 2010 5:04:54 am PDT #25753 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Um, asking him to NOT SEXUALLY ASSAULT women isn't actually a "higher standard." It's pretty much the bare minimum of human decency.

Yeah, seriously.


Ginger - Apr 28, 2010 5:10:39 am PDT #25754 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Shari, Britain and France are both dealing with the consequences of once being colonizers. The chickens are coming home to roost, so to speak.

So that makes rioting okay?

Okay, javachick has already responded, but her comment about Britain and France was in the context of your assertion that the situations there were analogous to immigration problems here. I know you may feel that negative responses to this statement reflect political differences, but Buffistas tend to come down hard on ad hominem arguments on any topic.

Shall we just give back Texas and California back then?

This is again a false analogy. California, Nevada, Utah, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and part of Colorado were ceded to the U.S. as a result of the Mexican-American War, a war justified by a lie ("Mexico has passed the boundary of the United States, has invaded our territory and shed American blood upon American soil.") and pushed by the South as a way to expand territory for slavery. There was no colonization; people who had lived in Mexico for, in some cases, centuries, suddenly lived in the U.S.

The Mexican war is kind of a hot button for me. It's what I think of every time someone tries to claim the high moral ground for the U.S.


flea - Apr 28, 2010 5:12:00 am PDT #25755 of 30001
information libertarian

Huh, I kinda took that whole commentary as serious sarcasm, like society has its priorities in the wrong place. For a sports commentator, DeFord doesn't actually seem to like sports very much.


Aims - Apr 28, 2010 5:13:00 am PDT #25756 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Um, asking him to NOT SEXUALLY ASSAULT women isn't actually a "higher standard." It's pretty much the bare minimum of human decency.

But he's an ATHLETE. And as an ATHLETE, he is entitled to any woman he wants, regardless of their feelings on the matter. It's written down right there. See? Where is says BENEFITS OF AN ATHLETE?


Jesse - Apr 28, 2010 5:14:07 am PDT #25757 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Huh, I kinda took that whole commentary as serious sarcasm, like society has its priorities in the wrong place.

Note: I did not hear the piece.


Ginger - Apr 28, 2010 5:18:50 am PDT #25758 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

For a sports commentator, DeFord doesn't actually seem to like sports very much.

Actually, I think DeFord loves sports, which is why he is so incensed when it gets mired in dreadful behavior.