Maria, thank you for writing that.
I miss Oz. He'd get it. He wouldn't say anything, but he'd get it.
Xander ,'Get It Done'
Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
P.M. Marc - Apr 27, 2010 8:41:54 pm PDT #25727 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Maria - Apr 27, 2010 8:44:38 pm PDT #25728 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift
Heh. I was thisclose to specializing in immigration law, and then I realized the overabundance of government shenanigans. I couldn't tilt at windmills everyday. Stephanie, I admire your desire and tenacity to deal with it all.
ION, sarameg's guest room is perfect as is. Rubbermaid tubs disappeared in the face of multiple snuggles from a certain Mister Kitty. His owner wasn't a half-bad companion, either.
edit: Plei and Cass, you're welcome. It just isn't my story; I'd venture to say that it's similar to the stories of a vast majority of the children of recent immigrants in this country today. Too bad we only hear about the stuff that paints immigration in an overwhelmingly bad light.
Cass - Apr 27, 2010 8:51:41 pm PDT #25729 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Maria, thank you for writing that.
Seconded.
Barb - Apr 27, 2010 8:58:38 pm PDT #25730 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”
Poverty and poor education are not going to be eradicated just by learning English and American ideals. Whatever happened to that basic American tenet that all (wo)men are created equal? I don't see any qualifiers in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution that limit basic rights to English speakers only.
::also loves Maria's very spicy brains::
Grazie, sorella.
Beverly - Apr 27, 2010 10:21:44 pm PDT #25731 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Thank you, Maria. And everyone else who's had intelligent and thoughtful things to say on the subject.
billytea - Apr 28, 2010 1:53:15 am PDT #25732 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Or what Erin and billytea have said, much more eloquently and succinctly than I ever could.
I thought you were perfectly eloquent. And with actual legal knowledge, which is always a plus. (During your comment on Britain and France, though, I did find myself asking "What if xenophobia is their cultural heritage?")
Oh, one thing I think is worth clarifying: the French government is not trying to ban headscarves. It's proposing to ban the full burqa. (The current opinion seems to be that their proposal is unconstitutional anyway, so anything that sticks will have to be watered down - possibly limited to places where they can cite separation of church and state, as is already the case in schools and the civil service, and places where security demands that a person's face can be seen.)
Strix - Apr 28, 2010 2:13:41 am PDT #25733 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Ah. Good to know. See, I knew there was something I didn't know, and I just couldn't be arsed to look it up that late in the evening.
Damn, I'm up early. That ain't right.
billytea - Apr 28, 2010 2:16:26 am PDT #25734 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Damn, I'm up early. That ain't right.
You came back woke up wrong!
Strix - Apr 28, 2010 2:36:35 am PDT #25735 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Heh.
You came back woke up wrong!
Hmm, not exactly...But I am awake now, and I wonder if I should try to get a few more hours of shuteye.
Maria - Apr 28, 2010 3:36:49 am PDT #25736 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift
Thanks, everyone.
Go back to sleep, Erin. Especially since I can't.
(During your comment on Britain and France, though, I did find myself asking "What if xenophobia is their cultural heritage?")
Call me naive, but even if xenophobia is part of their cultural heritage, there is nothing that's forcing either country to preserve it. A national identity should evolve and be enriched by the addition of new elements, rather than cower in fear of the unknown and different. Celebrate history, but don't be enslaved to it.