As a 1st generation American, with no grandparents who were born here, I realized I just can't process anti-immigrant sentiment at all, legal or not.
Cosigned.
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P.M. Marc - Apr 27, 2010 3:44:26 pm PDT #25597 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
javachik - Apr 27, 2010 3:46:30 pm PDT #25598 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
As a 1st generation American, with no grandparents who were born here, I realized I just can't process anti-immigrant sentiment at all, legal or not.
And I trace my maternal roots in the U.S. back to 1700's and I feel the same way.
It's just so "fear of the other".
P.M. Marc - Apr 27, 2010 3:53:18 pm PDT #25599 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
As a birthright citizen, I've seen and heard some brow-raising rhetoric in the last couple years around my very own status. Not that they mean me, of course. I'm pale enough for them. And they probably don't know my parents weren't American. Doesn't make me not want to punch them in the face, mind.
megan walker - Apr 27, 2010 3:56:09 pm PDT #25600 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
It occurs to me that I don't even know if my Dad's parents ever became citizens.
msbelle - Apr 27, 2010 3:57:41 pm PDT #25601 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I always knew there was something funny about you.
sarameg - Apr 27, 2010 3:58:36 pm PDT #25602 of 30001
Turned out, the ship had actually docked in Hoboken.
Hah. My grandparents both got (separately) Ellis Island, according the records I found there. And then moved to Buffalo for a few years. At least they were used to the cold??
I had a thing, but suffice to say: illegal immigration is a problem, but I don't think it's as big of one as it is being made to be, and there's a lot of underlying -isms and fear at play. There always has been, even with waves of legal immigration. I think we already have adequate tools to deal with it, but they are unevenly used and that's just as much the fault of the business community (hey, that's us!) as it is the gov't (also us!) (employer verification, etc.)
I don't believe you can really compare the US to countries in europe wrt to immigrants cause we have a whole different cultural myth going on. We've got more ingredients in our salad, so to speak, and adding new ones...it isn't as shocking when you bite into a new veggie. God, was that tortuous or what?
javachik - Apr 27, 2010 3:59:00 pm PDT #25603 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
I'm pale enough for them.
This. This. This.
Kristen - Apr 27, 2010 3:59:05 pm PDT #25604 of 30001
megan walker - Apr 27, 2010 3:59:22 pm PDT #25605 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
I always knew there was something funny about you.
Well that, among other things.
Also, don't tell anyone, but my French grandfather was actually a Communist.
P.M. Marc - Apr 27, 2010 3:59:30 pm PDT #25606 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
It occurs to me that I don't even know if my Dad's parents ever became citizens.
My parents did for pragmatic work-related reasons when it became clear they weren't going back north. Also, to have a say in shit.
It's so cute that it's only now that they're finding themselves utterly baffled by large portions of Americans.