Simon: I, uh... I never-never shot anyone before. Book: I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.

'War Stories'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


ChiKat - Apr 27, 2010 10:31:25 am PDT #25497 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Did you make or buy it?


Lee - Apr 27, 2010 10:32:54 am PDT #25498 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Cashmere, do you know about Dottie's Weight loss zone? [link] that has nutrition and Weight watcher points info for a lot of restaurants.

This is what they have for Chili's chicken tortilla soup
Cup (140 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/10 g carbs)


§ ita § - Apr 27, 2010 10:32:59 am PDT #25499 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

YOU DO NOT LIME.

C'est quoi cette LIME ce?

I am dizzy with shit to do, my head hurts like a bitch, I'm out of pain meds, and my doctor would be within bounds to not refill the script so I'm holding my breath on that front. And I can't take pain meds till I get home anyway.

Oops. Now it's time for me to drop in on a training session I don't honestly belong on to try and score more information on a whole new topic on my plate from last week.


Cashmere - Apr 27, 2010 10:33:03 am PDT #25500 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I bought it. It was at the gym. I could ask them to guestimate for me next time I'm there. I hope it's not too much because I bought another pint to bring home for dinner tonight.


Cashmere - Apr 27, 2010 10:34:05 am PDT #25501 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Thanks, Perkins. I'll play around. This was a creamy type--and the bistro I eat at makes all their stuff from scratch, which I love. Estimating my calorie intake is hard though.


lisah - Apr 27, 2010 10:34:50 am PDT #25502 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

I bought it. It was at the gym.

Well if it was at the gym it must be healthy, right? Right? Just like the beer they sell at my gym's snack counter.


Strix - Apr 27, 2010 10:35:36 am PDT #25503 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Erin, I don't discount racism as a motivator for some people, but how significant a role?...

I am a bit of a cynic, I'm afraid, but it's based, in a large part on the majority of attitudes I've seen in many of my students. For example, looking at attitudes from students and some staff members as a teachers at a predominantly Hispanic high school here in the Midwest, a predominantly black high school here, and at a working class tech college (also in the Midwest), an on-line university that serves 99% military students and families, and at a two liberal arts state universities, I have seen many, many examples of unthinking racism and xenophobia, from all sides.

Since I teach composition and literature classes that emphasize logical thinking and examining multiple viewpoints, I have seen students struggle with the layers of racism -- and I'm talking all kinds of racism here: black, white, Hispanic, Vietnamese, there's racism in every group -- that they have been raised with, and while some show significant attempts to discover and counter their societally "approved" racism and xenophobia, a disheartening amount continue to staunchly advocate their views, regardless of logic or knowledge of the perils of stereotyping and making broad generalizations.

While I hope for changes, and work to promote critical thinking, examination of multiple perspectives and thoughtful analysis based on facts, it is rather an uphill battle, and my idealism is very much tempered my a touch of cynicism, based on my experiences in education.

I'd like to see a national debate and a national solution focused on what's good for our country. But since this is such a complex and emotional issue (sigh) like abortion or Middle East peace (sigh), I'm not optimistic.

And word. It's so damn hard to get people to be aware of their personal biases, and still look thoughtfully and critically and both sides of an issue, and try to be objective. It can get really depressing, teaching. I gave an assignment recently in a junior-level comp class that focuses on critical thinking and argument in writing, and one of the paragraphs they need to write on was 6 habits that hinder critical thinking. One of the habits students needed to write on was stereotyping -- they were to examine how they had fallen prey to this -- everyone does, it's a matter of being aware of it, and training yourself to recognize and avoid it -- and so many of them just wrote about how "I hate Arabs" or "I hate hippys [sic]" and didn't examine why, or how this might not be the most logical of attitudes.

Le sigh. But I keep on pumping away. I don't want to tell any student WHAT to think, but I do want to teach them how to think critically.


ChiKat - Apr 27, 2010 10:36:14 am PDT #25504 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I bought it. It was at the gym.

Darn. I was hoping for a recipe.

But, I like lisah's thought about gym soup=healthy soup. I stand by my three calories.


smonster - Apr 27, 2010 10:36:37 am PDT #25505 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Since I'm talking abortion on my fb page, I'm just going to nod politely at the immigration discussion as I scroll on by.

Dammit, I can't. ::sigh:: Similarly to how I believe that prosecution for prostitution should focus on the johns, I believe that immigration prosecution should focus on the employers and the coyotes and the traffickers. They are the ones profiting off need and misfortune, and frequently abusing the immigrants in the process.

My views are strongly shaped by the time I spent in Europe's poorest country, where anyone who could left the country to work, legally or illegally. Because hey, even if you were lucky enough to have a job didn't mean that you'd get paid on time, or in full, or at all.


Cashmere - Apr 27, 2010 10:37:24 am PDT #25506 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Just like the beer they sell at my gym's snack counter.

That's my kind of work out facility!!!

Actually, I do love mine because they also use a lot of local ingredients for their dishes and for the most part, they're health conscious.

I wish you guys could try this! It has chunks of white meat chicken, green peppers and onions in a smooth, spicy, creamy sauce.