She didn't even touch her pumpkin. It's a freak with no face.

Willow ,'Help'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Apr 11, 2010 11:59:34 am PDT #22313 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Dinner last night (and tonight since I cooked for the weekend) Lebanese lamb curry. I was suspicious of the combination of lamb and celery (also of celery in curry) but it turned out delicious, and my neighbor swears this is a traditional Lebanese dish, albeit with a few labor saving changes. Onions, celery, tomatos rice, curry power, garlic, allspice, cinnamon, honey, salt, pepper, wine, olive oil, water, ground lamb. Cover and bring liquids to a boil (enough for rice). Add spices and vegetables, continue to boil until about half cooked. Add rice and continue to cook into rice is about five minutes from done. Stir in ground lamb mixing well. Continue to mix every three minutes as lamb cooks so it is well distributed among other ingredients. When the lamb is done, turn off heat and let sit for 15 minutes. (If using instant rice then cook vegatable until they are five minutes from done before adding rice. The traditional version I gather use lean lamb cuts rather than ground lamb, browns the lamb, removes it, adds more oil, sautes rice and veggies with some of spices while bringing rest of liquid to boil with reset of the spices, then adds boiling liquid and browned lamb back to rice. Like all traditional dishes, many variations. The variation I tried is not traditional but it is good, very similar in flavor to the traditional versions [according to neighbor], and very low labor.)


SuziQ - Apr 11, 2010 12:01:06 pm PDT #22314 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

If both kids weren't asleep, I was going to offer to take them to a movie before we take Kelly back to the airport. Yet the napping is strong in here. It is threatening to take me under.


brenda m - Apr 11, 2010 12:05:25 pm PDT #22315 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That sounds yum, TD. I think I'm going to use my vegetable stock for potato-leek-cabbage soup. I might have to go out and get some good bacon to top it with.


DavidS - Apr 11, 2010 12:10:42 pm PDT #22316 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Italian wedding soup is one of my favorites, and I would love a veg-friendly recipe. What did you do? Did you use tiny veggie meatballs, or big ones?

It's actually kind of a mix between minestrone and wedding soup.

I don't really love minestrone but I had the beans and noodles and went from there and it turned out well.

I used the little frozen veggie meatballs from Trader Joe's. Just added them at the end.

Here's the recipe as I made it.

In a medium soup pot, sautee onion (quarter yellow onion, I'd guess) and minced garlic (fair amount, about four cloves) in olive oil and butter. Should be almost enough olive oil to cover the bottom by itself and a generous dollop of butter.

I find with the vegetarian soups and chili that it's beneficial to add some delicious making fat unless I'm going for a very bright, vegetable flavor. Just trying to make it richer.

Once the sauteed onion and garlic was releasing a good scent I added two cans of black beans. Then I added another can of water.

Then I cheated and added some of the Pacific Natural Foods organic French Onion soup. About half a cup. It's a vegetarian stock but it's really rich and dark. This has been a real find for me when I've needed a good veggie substitute for beef stock.

If you can't find an equivalent I think you'd need to roast onions until they were dark and a bit carmelized then blenderize them with some liquid to get this effect.

I seasoned with salt, pepper, cayenne and cumin (because of the beans, not so necessary in a true Italian Wedding soup).

Did my second cheat and added about half a small tub of fresh salsa. This isn't the jarred stuff but the fresh stuff they keep in the cold section out here. Not sure if the rest of the country can get things like Casa Sanchez yet. But I use it for a fresh, tomatoey jolt to the soup. It's got the acid but also some other flavor to add to it.

Then I cut up a medium tomato, diced it, sprinkled with salt and dried Italian herbs (marjoram, oregano, rosemary, thyme).

Threw that into the pot.

Then I skimmed a lot.

Then I added a fair amount of pasta (third of a bag?): rigatoni.

I think in a real Italian wedding soup you'd use something tiny like orzo. Maybe elbo mac.

Cooked until the pasta was about done. Skimmed a lot again.

Added the meatballs at the end and it only took them a couple minutes to cook. I could've also added in some fresh baby spinach at the end for the true Italian wedding soup vibe.

Topped it with a bit of greek yogurt which JZ likes in lieu of sour cream.

I think the key is finding that good vegetarian substitution for beef stock, and I recommend finding a really rich dark, onion stock. Not a generic veggie stock. Also, you want something like this to be a bit rich so don't stint on the olive oil and butter when you're sauteeing. You could probably tart it up with a little white wine or sherry too.

In a true Italian Wedding soup you'd skip the beans and tomatoes. (and obviously the salsa). You'd want a more clear stock, and you'd stir in the greens at the end.

You could probably make a good veggie meatball from scratch using something like Yves meatless ground, egg, seasoning and something yum like parmesan.

Anyway, as I said, the key is making the stock as rich and flavorful as you can.


Steph L. - Apr 11, 2010 12:13:37 pm PDT #22317 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Trader Joe's has tiny veggie meatballs? Maybe we don't have them here. (They do have normal-sized veggie meatballs.)

In a true Italian Wedding soup you'd skip the beans and tomatoes. (and obviously the salsa). You'd want a more clear stock, and you'd stir in the greens at the end.

I think if I were making yours, I'd do everything you did AND then add the greens at the end. Yum.


Hil R. - Apr 11, 2010 12:15:56 pm PDT #22318 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

You could probably make a good veggie meatball from scratch using something like Yves meatless ground, egg, seasoning and something yum like parmesan.

There's a great veggie meatball recipe in Veganomicon using mashed beans and wheat gluten, plus some bread crumbs and seasonings.


Polter-Cow - Apr 11, 2010 12:17:25 pm PDT #22319 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Trader Joe's has tiny veggie meatballs? Maybe we don't have them here. (They do have normal-sized veggie meatballs.)

I don't like them very much. They taste like...carrotburger or something. Not the right flavor. I like the turkey meatballs.


brenda m - Apr 11, 2010 12:32:02 pm PDT #22320 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Good tip on the stock, David. Is that from TJ's?


Hil R. - Apr 11, 2010 12:33:09 pm PDT #22321 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Totally random question, prompted by a conversation with a friend -- is there a white TV show family with several kids, all of whom have dark hair? Every white TV show family we could think of were either all blond kids (even if the parents both had dark hair) or some blond and some brown-haired kids, but we couldn't think of any TV family with several dark-haired kids and no blond ones.


Polter-Cow - Apr 11, 2010 12:40:09 pm PDT #22322 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

On Dexter, Cody and Astor are both dark-haired. Harrison could be blond, but he's a baby so it's hard to tell.