Oh, smacked in the noggin with a 2x4 wrapped in velvet. Yeah, that's what it felt like.

Lorne ,'Smile Time'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Apr 04, 2010 7:21:19 pm PDT #20870 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Yikes! Just alimony?? Or is that for child support too?


DavidS - Apr 04, 2010 7:25:58 pm PDT #20871 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yikes! Just alimony?? Or is that for child support too?

Yeah, three kids child support.

It's weird seeing how just the simple cultural move away from ready, shame-free, this-is-okay birth control has affected all these lives. Though some of them just married young and stupid.

Maybe 16 year olds shouldn't drive and you shouldn't be allowed to get married before age 25. Just as a rule of thumb.


Trudy Booth - Apr 04, 2010 7:33:06 pm PDT #20872 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Right! Plus bridge tolls. (A not inconsequential part of our regular expenses.)

You'd still have to pay tolls in the Zipcar.

His schools are actually close to a BART station. However, moving the baseball gear and school backpack and laptop is a bit much for him to be carting back and forth by himself.

Feh. It's not always baseball season. (Uphill, both ways, in the snow...)


javachik - Apr 04, 2010 7:34:21 pm PDT #20873 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I'm sure y'all have taken this into consideration, but a rolling backpack really helps a couple of highschoolers I know. One was having back issues from all of the textbooks and the school nurse suggested a rolling backpack. It's really helped.


DavidS - Apr 04, 2010 7:36:14 pm PDT #20874 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's not always baseball season.

February to September for him. Plus the inconveniently placed Krav lessons.

Seriously, though, I don't think we could go carless until Emmett goes to college.


JZ - Apr 04, 2010 7:38:28 pm PDT #20875 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

The last time I checked carshare rates (about a year ago) the numbers didn't work. I should definitely re-run them, especially now that Matilda's in preschool at work and we don't have to wrestle with the extra miles to her daycare and the logistics of the car seat.


Kathy A - Apr 04, 2010 7:48:15 pm PDT #20876 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Oh, Hec and JZ, I hope things get better for y'all soon!

My brother was able to retire with 75% pay at the end of February even though he's only 48 years old, but he's been working part-time since last summer and just got a job as a letter carrier for Philadelphia so he can afford his alimony, child support, and college for his oldest. I don't know what he's paying, but he's living with Mom because he can't afford his own place.


Liese S. - Apr 04, 2010 7:53:10 pm PDT #20877 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Hee. I got married seven years before 25. But yeah I was most definitely young and stupid. But with birth control, so no kids 16 years later.


JZ - Apr 04, 2010 8:04:22 pm PDT #20878 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Just re-ran the numbers. It's the bridge-crossing during commute hours that kills it; we'd have to either pay the huge daily rate three days a week or bring the zipcar back, which during commute hours would probably work out to about an hour and a half round trip, which they'd probably round up to 2 hours. Double that for the days when Hec's both dropping off and picking up/bringing back to SF, and zipping plus bridge tolls would likely cost about $290/m (274 if Hec skims casual carpoolers from the waiting lines at the transbay bus stops in order to cross the bridge for free in the carpool lane), vs. about $300/m that we're paying now. A little less, but probably not enough to be worth it.


Trudy Booth - Apr 04, 2010 8:08:32 pm PDT #20879 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

You can book the car in half hour increments (at least with Zipcar), any rounding up would be on your onus. So, little more little less.