I just think you're freakin' out 'cause you have to fight someone prettier than you.

Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Apr 02, 2010 7:09:07 pm PDT #20605 of 30001

Kat, one of my jewish friends got a decent education in catholic school (public schools were equiv, but there were extenuating circs,) so even if you want to forgo the religious aspect.

OTOH, my mother was raised methodist, dad a lutheran until the father threw him bodily out of confirmation class (he argued semantics and god and dude couldn't deal) and they raised me quaker and I went to a quaker school despite already knowing I didn't believe any of it, but appreciated the values. I believe in beauty, what I can see and the damn bitch called hope. Fuck, I'm sending a bunch of Hubble shit to a bunch of evangelicals now. I'll never agree with them, but their heart is right and it isn't contradicting mine.


tommyrot - Apr 02, 2010 7:09:08 pm PDT #20606 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I've always wanted a Devon Rex. Except for the shoulder thing. I'm finding I have less tolerance for cat neediness than I thought.

I didn't even know about the shoulder thing when I got Senor. At first I thought it was a kitten thing when he did it. But he did it as an adult too. Freaked out a few people over the years....


brenda m - Apr 02, 2010 7:11:45 pm PDT #20607 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

JZ, I've been thinking about you all the time recently. (For better or worse, you're how I put a face on the best of Cathoicism.)

Like I said, Weakland is someone I respect enormously. And I get -

No, I don't get. But I'm trying to understand how incredibly painful this all must be for you. To be truthful, I'm not sure how you stay there. But I also get that that's not at all the same for me as for you.


sarameg - Apr 02, 2010 7:14:35 pm PDT #20608 of 30001

D'oh. I'm so out of whatever, the 2 moms thing never even occurred to me. . Though from a mainstream Catholic community back 15 years, I'm clearly not thinking in that mindspace anymore. THANK GOODNESS.


Kat - Apr 02, 2010 7:20:26 pm PDT #20609 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

HA! Sara! That's precisely the issue. If he were baptized, it would mitigate the two mommies bit.

We also picked a preschool. It's in the neighborhood we hope to move to next spring, the one that has actually super good schools, even public ones. But we took the check up today and the kids were all outside playing and it's the right place, I think, for Noah. Or it's an okay place for him. I'm sort of bereft about Aria and him not going there, but really, I am too impatient to wait to see if we really will get one of the elusive spaces.

Plus the preschool we chose? They do an ice cream social each year and we went last year and liked it. They are also the cheapest option we have ($790 a month) and they do sort of fun and interesting academics, more so than other schools we've looked at.

AND the director remembers us from a preschool cattle call. She remembered that we had twins and remembered our faces.

AND, we can do some part time summer transition before school starts. He'll go for mornings for 2 weeks before labor day, then another full week before the first day of school. It's the best way we can arrange it.


sarameg - Apr 02, 2010 7:26:37 pm PDT #20610 of 30001

OK, here's my love of my parents: I sincerely doubt my dad believed in god when I was born, but mom still did. We went to quaker meetings where I mostly got schooled in the new and old testaments. Sorta. Really what I learned was the quaker (of the west) manner, which was this whole witnessing and human rights thing. And then I watched (and fretted) as my faithless father practiced those principles alongside those who believed.

What I got (and what he didn't) is that there is a conduit there, a bridge. He crosses it but denies it existence. I see it, but I haven't crossed it in practice.


brenda m - Apr 02, 2010 7:38:31 pm PDT #20611 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Fretted, huh? What was it about doing the same things but without the spiritual underpinning that was upsetting?

(That's an honest question, not snark.)


Liese S. - Apr 02, 2010 7:43:49 pm PDT #20612 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

What I got (and what he didn't) is that there is a conduit there, a bridge. He crosses it but denies it existence. I see it, but I haven't crossed it in practice.

I think I know what you mean here, but can you elucidate?


Lee - Apr 02, 2010 7:44:06 pm PDT #20613 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I kind of went a little nuts with the polish about a week ago, at Head2Toe beauty, that has discount prices, and ordered: China Glaze: Dorothy Who?, C-C-Courage, Electric Lilac, Grape Pop, Cosmic, Meteor Shower, Stella, Let's Groove, Skate Night, Watermelon Rind, Grape Juice and Orly Nail Polish-Velvet Rope

I LOVE all of them, except Stella, which is going in the give away pile. Tonight's color is Grape juice.


aurelia - Apr 02, 2010 7:44:32 pm PDT #20614 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Wearing the brown cassock of a Franciscan, Father Cantalamessa took note that Easter and Passover were falling during the same week this year, saying he was led to think of the Jews. “They know from experience what it means to be victims of collective violence and also because of this they are quick to recognize the recurring symptoms,” he said.

Violence? Has there been violence against Catholics (collectively) over this?

I swapped two of the songs on the musical quiz (both Julie Andrews shows). I got 20/25 on the uncomfortable synopsis quiz. Four of the misses were shows that I've heard of but don't know.

Check out this poster for a lost Bond film. [link]