You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Mar 26, 2010 6:20:03 pm PDT #19061 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Full time people who work 34 hours a week for about $9 an hour.

There's a reason I shop at Costco and won't set foot in a Wal*Mart.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2010 6:20:19 pm PDT #19062 of 30001

Low prices happen at a cost of something...

God, I'm in a shit stirring mood.


Hil R. - Mar 26, 2010 6:25:18 pm PDT #19063 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

That's....not network TV.

Well, yeah. "Corporations are killing your kids" wouldn't be able to sell any commercials. "You lazy parents are killing your kids" can. (The first episode, there were several fast food commercials. The second one, the only food commercials I noticed were for pasta sauce, but I wasn't totally paying attention.)


javachik - Mar 26, 2010 6:27:10 pm PDT #19064 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

The book by Ellen Ruppel Shell called "Cheap: The High Cost of Discount Culture" is a really good look into it, sarameg.


Amy - Mar 26, 2010 6:28:18 pm PDT #19065 of 30001
Because books.

The Walmart here is the only store twenty or more miles in any direction with a lot of things people need -- affordable clothes and housewares, for instance. They also carry groceries, and it's one of only three grocery stores in town. And in the winter here, when the routes either north or south aren't really fit for travel, that's a big thing.

It also employs a hell of a lot of people, which is a really big thing -- we have entire strip malls standing empty.


Trudy Booth - Mar 26, 2010 6:30:55 pm PDT #19066 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It also employs a hell of a lot of people, which is a really big thing -- we have entire strip malls standing empty.

Man I hate strip malls. It didn't even occur to me that we might be trading mega stores for strip malls.


smonster - Mar 26, 2010 6:31:34 pm PDT #19067 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

That's a statement that applies to the whole country, Hec.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2010 6:32:14 pm PDT #19068 of 30001

java, one of the local businessman has been good at deflating the Walmart with reputable links. It's depressing, yet the immediate gratification factor for the larger area is huge. I'd much rather have a small grocery and several local businesses which could provide the same, but they don't have the startup and construction capital something like a Walmart does.

Traffic is so fucked.


aurelia - Mar 26, 2010 6:35:24 pm PDT #19069 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Hooray shame! If Jamie Oliver won't shame the fatties, who will???

I'm not seeing that. I haven't seen the show, but I did watch his TED presentation which included some clips from the show. There are probably some faults in his approach, but I see a genuine interest in improving health and nutrition.


DavidS - Mar 26, 2010 6:36:13 pm PDT #19070 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That's a statement that applies to the whole country, Hec.

Yeah, but they're based in Arkansas, and they grew first in the South. They may have a national presence now but they're Southern grown. Anyway, I'm not blamey about Southerners, I just think that as culturally entrenched as Wal-Mart is in the South, coupled with the shift from Southern Dems to Republicans there's a disconnect.