Overwhelming? How much more than whelming would that be exactly?

Anya ,'Touched'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2010 5:06:31 pm PDT #18994 of 30001

And yet I keep hearing about pilot projects (ok, in better school districts) doing just that. I just won't be defeatist about this. And hell, Michelle Obama's on the bandwagon. It's not as if there isn't already some discontent afoot. Yes, it probably "officially" needs to be changes on the federal level. But you can start with just not contracting to Sysco's chicken patties.

I don't really have issues with shit-stirring tv. I know it's tv. It's got an angle. I saw frustration and frankly, willful naivite, but that's tv.


Hil R. - Mar 26, 2010 5:07:23 pm PDT #18995 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think drawing attention to it is one of the only ways you're going to show parents that those lobbies do have such a strong hold on the nutrition programs, though.

But so far, there has been not a word mentioned about the lobbies. The USDA regulations are treated as some silly rules that he's trying to get around, not as federal rules that the school has to follow or else they don't get food at all.

And I don't get that he's shaming anyone. Not intentionally. He seems to genuinely care about health.

I can't see telling a parent "You are killing your child!" as anything other than shaming. Same for looking at a family's meal and telling them, "This is disgusting."

On the skim milk thing, the school's explanation was that the whole, 2%, and chocolate milk were required, and thus subsidized. Skim milk was not required, and thus they had to pay full price for it.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 26, 2010 5:07:26 pm PDT #18996 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

He seems to genuinely care about health.

Hee- Jamie Oliver's a Concern Troll!


shrift - Mar 26, 2010 5:08:51 pm PDT #18997 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

FitDay is good for tracking food against activity level, plus giving a breakdown of how much fiber, etc.

I've been using the MyPlate function at LiveStrong for a while now, but I've been using one of the preset activity levels and possibly was doing myself a disservice. I walk 3-4 miles during the course of an average work day, more if I run errands, which means carrying bags and going up and down a ton of stairs, and that's all before I hit the gym or the weights or the yoga mat.


DavidS - Mar 26, 2010 5:09:14 pm PDT #18998 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I made JZ a totally from scratch and tasty stir fry tonight that met her vegan-for-lent requirements: minced onions and garlic in the oil, spinach, tomatoes, mushrooms, green onions, and tofu. I added a sauce made of soy sauce, crystalized ginger (one piece finely chopped), mustard and hot sauce.

(Then I made a TJ's cheese pizza for the rest of us. It was organic! Okay, I cheated there.)

Then we ate strawberries which are hitting the market in abundance all of a sudden and are gorgeous deep red and flavorful and cheap.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2010 5:12:46 pm PDT #18999 of 30001

Y'know, I don't know what other baggage Oliver carries, but honestly? If that food shown was what that family ate regularly? It's not about their weight or size. It's about poor nutrition. Ditto the school lunches.

We always had skim milk. 1980-1993.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 26, 2010 5:13:06 pm PDT #19000 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I added a sauce made of soy sauce, crystalized ginger (one piece finely chopped), mustard and hot sauce.

Ooh, that sounds awesome. I'll remember it for when CSA season comes around (when we eat lots of stirfries!)


Amy - Mar 26, 2010 5:13:49 pm PDT #19001 of 30001
Because books.

It was pretty horrifying to me that a classroom full of kindergarteners couldn't name common fruits and vegetables, though.


Jesse - Mar 26, 2010 5:13:56 pm PDT #19002 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am now regretting my Friday CSA pickup, given how many Fridays I will be out of town. Woes!


Hil R. - Mar 26, 2010 5:16:03 pm PDT #19003 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

It was pretty horrifying to me that a classroom full of kindergarteners couldn't name common fruits and vegetables, though.

Well, the potatoes and tomatoes were pretty bad, but I'm not sure how many kids that age could identify beets. And we didn't see them try apples or bananas or carrots or other things kids more commonly eat.