Okay, um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm angry, and I'm armed, so if you two have something that you need to work out --

Mal ,'War Stories'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Mar 26, 2010 4:28:07 pm PDT #18966 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Yeah Jesse, I think some may be too old. I should just toss those, right?


Hil R. - Mar 26, 2010 4:29:45 pm PDT #18967 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

A show like this could be good if it focused on systematic food issues -- food deserts, subsidies, the funding of the school lunch program, and so on. But he sees some of the actual systematic problems and then blames them on individual people -- like, he sees all the kids drinking chocolate milk at school, and he blames this on the stubborn lunch ladies who insist on following the silly rules, rather than on the dairy subsidies that lead to those rules in the first place, and which also guarantee that the school will get NO food to feed these kids if they don't follow the rules.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2010 4:30:48 pm PDT #18968 of 30001

Eh, it's shock and awe. Made for tv. And most school lunch programs are really abysmal and the fact that highly processed, poor nutrition stuff is cheaper and more easily available (says she who ate a frozen lasagna for dinner) is problematic. I've actually been impressed at the produce section of the SuperWalmart in the far-out burbs of Birmingham where my brother lives.


Hil R. - Mar 26, 2010 4:31:50 pm PDT #18969 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

And most school lunch programs are really abysmal

But this is because of the federal structure of the program, not the individual cafeterias.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2010 4:34:36 pm PDT #18970 of 30001

Yup. And it is a problem.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2010 4:37:31 pm PDT #18971 of 30001

See, I don't know Jamie Oliver from Adam, so I am coming into this blind.


Hil R. - Mar 26, 2010 4:38:02 pm PDT #18972 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

He just said "I cannot believe the government allow this." Wrong. The government doesn't allow this. The government mandates this.

OK, this is actually vaguely useful. He went into a first grade classroom and tested the kids and found that practically none of them could identify any fresh vegetables, so the teacher decided to have a vegetable unit to teach the kids what the different vegetables are. And he did not call anything "disgusting" or "outrageous" or tell anybody "You are killing your children!" throughout that entire segment.


Amy - Mar 26, 2010 4:38:57 pm PDT #18973 of 30001
Because books.

I think Jamie is just working with one cafeteria to be able to put a face on it. It seems clear to me that he knows it's the federal guidelines that are at fault, and not the people working in the cafeterias.


Hil R. - Mar 26, 2010 4:40:51 pm PDT #18974 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think Jamie is just working with one cafeteria to be able to put a face on it. It seems clear to me that he knows it's the federal guidelines that are at fault, and not the people working in the cafeterias.

But it's totally framed as "Can Jamie change Huntington?" not "What needs to change at the federal level to change Huntington?"


Barb - Mar 26, 2010 4:43:12 pm PDT #18975 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

I have dried beans like woah.

They make excellent packing material. Just make sure to put them in Ziplocs, since their own bags are so thin, but otherwise, they're great for filler.