Up until the punching, it was a real nice party.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Mar 22, 2010 7:54:29 am PDT #17831 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Just in case you haven't gotten your RDA of schadenfreude yet, reading these quotes is fun!

Flashback: Who Wrongly Predicted Health Care Reform's Death

Fred Barnes, The Weekly Standard - January 20, 2010
"The health care bill, ObamaCare, is dead with not the slightest prospect of resurrection. Brown ran to be the 41st vote for filibuster and now he is just that. Democrats have talked up clever strategies to pass the bill in the Senate despite Brown, but they won't fly. It's one thing for ObamaCare to be rejected by the American public in poll after poll. But it becomes a matter of considerably greater political magnitude when ObamaCare causes the loss of a Senate race in the blue state of Massachusetts."


Daisy Jane - Mar 22, 2010 7:59:14 am PDT #17832 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

It's one thing for ObamaCare to be rejected by the American public in poll after poll.

But it wasn't though, was it? I remember polls saying people were in favor of reform. Overwhelmingly even.

Perhaps that's why they got it wrong?


tommyrot - Mar 22, 2010 8:00:55 am PDT #17833 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

But it wasn't though, was it? I remember polls saying people were in favor of reform. Overwhelmingly even.

There were some polls that typically show a Republican bias, and those are the polls they were using (when they weren't just pulling statistics out of their asses).

eta: The popularity of healthcare reform varies a lot depending on the wording of the poll.


Gudanov - Mar 22, 2010 8:02:01 am PDT #17834 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

But it wasn't though, was it? I remember polls saying people were in favor of reform. Overwhelmingly even.

Depends on the question. The polls were against the healthcare reform bill, but generally in favor of individual provisions of the bill.


Jessica - Mar 22, 2010 8:03:37 am PDT #17835 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I remember polls saying people were in favor of reform. Overwhelmingly even.

Technically, people were not in favor of "Obamacare" - polls showed overwhelming support for health care reform in general and overwhelming support of most of the individual provisions in this health care bill, but only if the words "Obama" "Democrat" "Republican" "Congress" etc were left out of the question. As soon as a political label (of any flavor - left or right made no difference) was applied, people hated it.


tommyrot - Mar 22, 2010 8:04:29 am PDT #17836 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

As soon as a political label (of any flavor - left or right made no difference) was applied, people hated it.

People are stupid.

I mean, in general.


tommyrot - Mar 22, 2010 8:06:49 am PDT #17837 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, I think Monday is a good day to die for random WTF-ness:

Weird trading cards from Japanese mayonnaise packaging

eta: More here: Pachi Playing Cards


DavidS - Mar 22, 2010 8:07:36 am PDT #17838 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

NPR had a piece this morning asking how much opposition there really is to the healthcare reform.

It's tracking around a 48/45 split. Not that big and some of the unhappiness comes from the left (single payer, abortion concessions). And some of it is in response to the process and less to do with the actual policy changes.


tommyrot - Mar 22, 2010 8:09:44 am PDT #17839 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

And some of it is in response to the process and less to do with the actual policy changes.

And some people are upset about all the Nazi/socialism stuff.


DavidS - Mar 22, 2010 8:11:34 am PDT #17840 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And some people are upset about all the Nazi/socialism stuff.

It's funny how when you put Nazis and Commies together you don't get a moderate effect.

Ideologies don't regress to the mean.