Laura, that new place is incredible! I hope the move goes as smoothly as possible.
Mal: So we run. Nandi: I understand, Captain Reynolds. You have your people to think of, same as me. And this ain't your fight. Mal: Don't believe you do understand, Nandi. I said 'we run'. We.
'Heart Of Gold'
Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Cashmere - Mar 06, 2010 10:37:54 am PST #13901 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.
§ ita § - Mar 06, 2010 10:46:25 am PST #13902 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
So I'm watching a movie to go unnamed in case I spoil anyone for a clumsy comedy from 2003 that has weird parallels to a current Oscar nominee.
Can you nullify a contract by physically tearing it up? I mean, doesn't that make it ridiculously easy for one party to renege?
DavidS - Mar 06, 2010 10:55:08 am PST #13903 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Can you nullify a contract by physically tearing it up?
If it's the only copy?
Though everybody scans legal documents to PDF nowadays so that's a tougher trick to pull.
§ ita § - Mar 06, 2010 10:58:07 am PST #13904 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If it's the only copy?
For reals? Tearing it in two nullifies it? That seems like a really simple out, if whatever you were intending to get from it is acted upon ASAP.
Trudy Booth - Mar 06, 2010 11:00:47 am PST #13905 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I don't know if destroying the only copy of a contract makes it null, I think it just makes the agreement undocumented and unenforceable.
§ ita § - Mar 06, 2010 11:04:50 am PST #13906 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Tearing it in two counts as destroying?
brenda m - Mar 06, 2010 11:07:24 am PST #13907 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Oh, if you just tear it in two you're probably still screwed. As long as it can be reconstructed.
Trudy Booth - Mar 06, 2010 11:16:00 am PST #13908 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I suppose if the contract has the condition that either party can withdraw from the agreement one of the parties ripping up the contract would be a dramatic means of withdrawl.
Typo Boy - Mar 06, 2010 11:16:27 am PST #13909 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
OK, not a lawyer. But destroying the physical copy of a contract (as far as I understand) had no force in law. But if it is the only copy that certainly makes agreement to its terms harder to prove. So depending on circumstances, you could nullify a contract by tearing up the sole copy in the sense that it would become impossible to prove. But even before pdfs, there was carbon paper, and just about every contract had multiple copies. And before carbon paper, I suspect clerks simply typed up (or hand wrote!) multiple copies. I suspect that as long as we have had contracts, there have been means of protection against one party later denying agreeing to the contract. Where multiple copies were not practical I suspect public oaths before either large numbers of witnesses or small numbers widely respected witnesses who could not be easily murdered served the same purposes.
Strix - Mar 06, 2010 11:17:24 am PST #13910 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Mmm. I like chicken livers with hot sauce quite a bit, but I don't really like beef liver. I can eat pate until it starts oozing out my eyes, though. YUM.
At least my mom never had delusions of grandeur, claimed to be in the X-Men, and then tried to make out with me. It's like a modern Oedipus!