I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Feb 28, 2010 12:28:59 am PST #11925 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Go here [link] Click on the logo. Click it again. And again, and again...

Dude. 9-year-old Teppy just squeed with utter joy. 38-year-old Teppy is afraid she'll have sparkly rainbow nightmares.


Hil R. - Feb 28, 2010 2:19:12 am PST #11926 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I remember my friend Alison telling me about asking her dad "what happens after you die" when she was five years old. And he said, "It's like you go to sleep but you don't wake up."

And she was fine with that.

On the other hand, I've heard a few stories about kids who were told this and then totally freaked out about going to sleep for weeks afterwards because they were afraid they wouldn't wake up. So I guess it depends on where your kid's mind tends to go with things like that.

the vegan key lime pie (the raw avocado one, Hil!)

Ooh, that sounds good.


Calli - Feb 28, 2010 2:37:36 am PST #11927 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Go here [link] Click on the logo. Click it again. And again, and again...

I love how the code for what happens when you click on the logo is called "cornify". 'Cause, yeah.


Zenkitty - Feb 28, 2010 3:53:22 am PST #11928 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Knowing Owen, he'll start polling his classmates and compiling the data.

I love this.


JZ - Feb 28, 2010 4:34:08 am PST #11929 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I definitely remember figuring out that everyone and everything dies at about that age; it was a sudden awful revelation that hit me like a freight train one night when I was five, getting ready for bed, and it terrified me so badly I went tearing into my brothers' room, where my mom was diapering and PJ'ing them, and wailed, "Mommy, I'm going to die!" like she could fix it somehow. She said that yes, I would someday, but not for a very long time and I didn't need to worry about it for a while yet.

It completely threw me for a loop to find out that some people didn't believe in God at all, but I was only seven or eight, so I guess I'm still marginally ahead of some of the people Trudy went to college with.

And I worry that I'm not teaching Matilda enough about God, that for her S/He's categorized with fairies and superheroes and Santa Claus: all benevolent magic (er, no, I'm not yet reading her any old Celtic tales about the Fair Folk, so she also has no idea yet how deeply weird fairies are), and all equally real even though she hasn't yet personally encountered any of them.

And, of course, I've got my own issues with my church and I don't know myself where I'll be a year or so from now, so it's hard to invest myself in investing her in all the rituals, I'm so constantly in a rage at the people currently running the show.


Jesse - Feb 28, 2010 4:47:16 am PST #11930 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And I worry that I'm not teaching Matilda enough about God, that for her S/He's categorized with fairies and superheroes and Santa Claus:

On a lighter note, my neighbor growing up was trying to get his son to believe in Santa, but he refused after hearing "a right jolly old elf," because elves aren't real!


JZ - Feb 28, 2010 4:56:30 am PST #11931 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Elves, fairies, unicorns: all real. And yesterday when we were out walking through the neighborhood I pointed out an especially gussied-up multi-pastel Victorian as "colored like an Easter egg," and Matilda said, "It's the Easter Bunny's house. Yeah. He lives there."


Theodosia - Feb 28, 2010 4:58:52 am PST #11932 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I myself personally believe in the Boneless Chicken Ranch, where ripe chickens drop naturally from the trees when they're ready to be eaten.


msbelle - Feb 28, 2010 5:00:05 am PST #11933 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

best not let mac meet Matilda. He feels compelled to tell all children that I do not believe in Santa et al.


Jessica - Feb 28, 2010 5:03:19 am PST #11934 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Cash, have you looked at either of the Parenting Beyond Belief books? I haven't read them myself, but I've heard good things.

(The one point where I find myself violently disagreeing with him is that he takes his kids to as many different churches as possible so they can get exposed to different religious ideas. Which is fine if you're an atheist with a Christian background, but not really helpful to anyone trying to raise a family of secular Jews.)

I wish there were a congregation of the Society for Humanistic Judaism closer to me - the NYC chapter meets in various synagogues and UU churches in Manhattan and all the services would get us home LONG past D's bedtime. And like everything else in NYC, membership is hella expensive.