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tommyrot - Feb 27, 2010 4:14:39 pm PST #11829 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

He's also getting kind of obsessive about people and dying. Not sure where all this is coming from or how to handle it.

How old is he?

He's starting to figure out the connection between the cows, chickens and pigs being things that we are going to eat.

Growing up on a farm, I learned that connection pretty early. Usually we'd sell all our bull (male) calves shortly after they were born, but occasionally we'd let one grow to near-maturity, and then have it slaughtered. Then we'd have a big freezer full of steak and hamburger.

Some people say that in our modern culture we've lost the connection to the animals we eat. Now I wonder on the percentage of farm kids who become vegetarians vs. the percentage of kids who grew up in a city or suburb....

eta: Though I suppose farm country being more conservative would affect a person's chances of being vegetarian as well....


SuziQ - Feb 27, 2010 4:16:39 pm PST #11830 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Got a pedi this afternoon. Ended up being the last person in the shop and didn't leave until a half hour after they closed. Never felt rushed though. I now have BRIGHT green toes. I'm happy.

Next to the nail place is a tamale store. Bought some and they are NOM!!! I'm very pleased.


Hil R. - Feb 27, 2010 4:19:33 pm PST #11831 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Just about everybody that I know who is raising kids vegetarian or vegan says that, around kindergarten age, they all go through a vegan evangelist phase. Frequently leading to things like a five-year-old announcing at Thanksgiving dinner, "Grandpa, you shouldn't eat that, because it's a dead bird, and birds deserve to live because animals are our friends."


tommyrot - Feb 27, 2010 4:22:57 pm PST #11832 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Just about everybody that I know who is raising kids vegetarian or vegan says that, around kindergarten age, they all go through a vegan evangelist phase. Frequently leading to things like a five-year-old announcing at Thanksgiving dinner, "Grandpa, you shouldn't eat that, because it's a dead bird, and birds deserve to live because animals are our friends."

Huh.

I briefly dated a woman who had a vegetarian daughter. I think the daughter was about 5 or so when she asked her mom what a vegetarian was. When her mom told her, she said, "I'm a vegetarian." Interesting that it can happen at such a young age.


Connie Neil - Feb 27, 2010 4:23:43 pm PST #11833 of 30001
brillig

Growing up on a farm, I learned that connection pretty early

Yup, it doesn't take long seeing a picture of your neighbor with her calf and the blue ribbon she won at the county fair over the meat case in the supermarket to get the connection.

Plus cows like to step on people's feet and stand there. You can see the sadistic gleam in their eyes.


Hil R. - Feb 27, 2010 4:25:20 pm PST #11834 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I also know several people with vegan kids who have had to deal with "Your kid told my kid where meat comes from, and now my kid won't eat dinner!" phone calls from the parents of kindergarten and first grade classmates.


sarameg - Feb 27, 2010 4:26:12 pm PST #11835 of 30001

My mother credits her preference for chicken to the fact she had to collect eggs from some really obnoxious hens. They used to attack her. She was happy to see them turned into dinner.

My mother is the sweetest, most mild-mannered, non-grudgy person ever. So this cracks me up.


tommyrot - Feb 27, 2010 4:26:33 pm PST #11836 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

In retrospect, perhaps I just resented the cows because I had to do chores every day starting at age 7-ish.


Trudy Booth - Feb 27, 2010 4:27:33 pm PST #11837 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I was hoping chickens would stop being evil now that I don't eat them. No such luck. And if I kill one in self defense I just might eat it.


tommyrot - Feb 27, 2010 4:27:49 pm PST #11838 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

My mother credits her preference for chicken to the fact she had to collect eggs from some really obnoxious hens. They used to attack her.

I've always suspected this about chickens.