May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Jan 12, 2010 2:37:30 pm PST #1067 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Hey, -t, can you send tommy some candles? They should be your husband's candles for accuracy.

I've just got the one left in the freezer, is the problem with that.


tommyrot - Jan 12, 2010 2:37:47 pm PST #1068 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

By negative I meant perhaps mucking up the candle entirely--if the wax melts too slowly the wick can't burn and the candle goes out. But the candle might warm up before that's a factor.

I think the flame would produce enough heat to still melt enough wax so it would burn.

Now I'm curious if a candle that's been immersed in liquid helium to near absolute zero would still burn. Anyone have any liquid helium in a thermos?


-t - Jan 12, 2010 2:40:23 pm PST #1069 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think you would have trouble igniting the wick near absolute zero. Below a certain temperature (and I used to know what it was, but have, of course forgotten) there's no chemistry, and therefore no oxidation of whatever wicks are made of.


tommyrot - Jan 12, 2010 2:43:16 pm PST #1070 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think you would have trouble igniting the wick near absolute zero. Below a certain temperature (and I used to know what it was, but have, of course forgotten) there's no chemistry, and therefore no oxidation of whatever wicks are made of.

I disagree. The wick extends out from the candle and has a very high surface are to mass ratio (compared to the candle). It would heat up pretty quickly to a temperature where the wax impregnating it would burn. My question is, would the resulting flame be able to melt enough of the cold wax in the body of the candle to stay lit once the source of the initial flame (e.g. a match) was removed.

eta: This is once the candle is removed from the liquid helium.

But I think you'd be right if you tried to light the candle while it was immersed in liquid oxygen.


Sue - Jan 12, 2010 2:45:32 pm PST #1071 of 30001
hip deep in pie

SUV has Naveen Andrews guesting tonight. Nummy.


-t - Jan 12, 2010 2:46:14 pm PST #1072 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Ahhh, candle has been in liquid helium but is not presently? Then it's just a question of whether the flame can heat up the very cold wax enough to melt before it runs out of burning wick, I guess. Yeah, this is going to require empirical tests.

Edited to add:

But I think you'd be right if you tried to light the candle while it was immersed in liquid oxygen.

Ha, you won't get me to do that!


Jessica - Jan 12, 2010 2:55:11 pm PST #1073 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The BNO updates about Haiti are simply heartbreaking.


Jesse - Jan 12, 2010 3:04:31 pm PST #1074 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh man, now I have almost-relatives in Haiti, so I have to worry about them, too, instead of just generally.


amych - Jan 12, 2010 3:05:32 pm PST #1075 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Some Haiti pics: [link]

Looks completely awful; the epicenter was right outside Port-au-Prince, so tons of infrastructure damage, millions of people felt it, maybe thousands dead.


ChiKat - Jan 12, 2010 3:07:48 pm PST #1076 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Dudes. It has been a looooooong week and it's only Tuesday. I'm just now leaving work. Ahhh....12 hour work days. Joy.