Okay, um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm angry, and I'm armed, so if you two have something that you need to work out --

Mal ,'War Stories'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

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javachik - Jan 09, 2010 10:32:05 am PST #6246 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Shir, I truly appreciate you sharing your views with such enormous candor. I don't think I can respect you anymore than I do. And I look so forward to seeing how your life progresses and what dreams you'll accomplish.

I am in a weird headspace. Just finished watching Catch-22. Really need to take the Wigglebutts out, but just discovered that the DVD has commentary by Nichols and Steven Soderbergh!!


Beverly - Jan 09, 2010 10:55:39 am PST #6247 of 30000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

smonster, I wish you all success in this. It's a shame it had to come to this, but you're strong for taking this step.

Erin, seeing your glee is just wonderful. Shared squee expands exponentially, right? Feels that way, anyway.

Tell me I can't go out driving around exploring and sightseeing again today. I need to stay home and dig in on getting my closet reorged and more boxes unpacked. But it's pretty outside! Inside is work.


Laura - Jan 09, 2010 11:03:18 am PST #6248 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Close the closet door and hide the boxes. Don't waste the pretty day doing work when exploring new places is an option. t /enabler


NoiseDesign - Jan 09, 2010 11:05:38 am PST #6249 of 30000
Our wings are not tired

Go explore.


Atropa - Jan 09, 2010 11:06:55 am PST #6250 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Beverly, go explore! Go, shoo!


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jan 09, 2010 11:11:26 am PST #6251 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Shir, I don't disagree with you - mainly because I don't have the right. But your views relate to Israel. I come from a country where a disturbing number of people really don't know what went on in the Holocaust (and indeed, it shocked me how much I didn't know, despite having studied a fair bit of history and having Jewish family). Jewish people in my country are having their synagogues burnt down and being abused by people who don't acknowledge that they could be just a few steps away from repeating history. Muslims are having their mosques burnt down too, and asylum seekers are being attacked in the street, and mothers are being killed along with their disabled children, and to my mind it's all part of the same thing. And I don't ever want to be distracted by my liberal values so much that I can't see these things going on in my own country, or don't feel the need/responsibility to protest them.

As I've told you away from b.org, my trip to Israel was difficult for me on many levels, and not just the level where The Girl's parents were being idiots. The very fact that I'm marrying an Israeli is hard work for me on a regular basis, especially given the views of her family (not her) towards things like the Palestinian situation. I nearly avoided going out with The Girl entirely because I didn't think I could cope with what I (inaccurately) thought her views would be. I certainly was never going to visit Israel with her - she spent four years persuading me that I could do that without feeling guilty about Palestinians. So I have to put the visit to Yad Vashem, for myself, into that context of ignorance. I am someone who would never think of myself as having prejudices, because I'm liberal and an activist and all sorts of related self-righteous crap that I tell myself so I can sleep at night. At the same time, I'm VERY capable of being an oppressor, like anyone else with any kind of cultural privilege. I like to pretend I'm not, because I can debate British abuses towards colonial nations as well as any other conflicted Anglo-Irish person. But I am capable of oppression. I'm not the only person who needs to learn more about what happened so that I don't end up contributing to a repeat of history.

While I completely respect that you have a very different view on the Holocaust from other people, I also believe that any genocide, from the Eugenics projects to Rwanda, needs to be remembered. Because I don't know whether, if I'd lived during the Holocaust, I would have been brave enough to help people at my own risk (as the Hungarian Christian grandmother of a friend of mine did). More likely I'd have been among the millions who were looking at the ground a lot. And I want to be better than that - in all sorts of situations that I am in, in relation to everything from the way that detained asylum seekers are treated in the UK (horribly) to the situation of Western Muslims in the current political climate.

(FWIW, as someone who is gay, physically disabled and mentally ill, I certainly didn't perceive an 'only Jews suffered' undercurrent in Yad Vashem.)


sj - Jan 09, 2010 11:17:14 am PST #6252 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Beverly, definitely go explore. The boxes will wait.

I bought a new bookcase today. I'm so hopeless.


smonster - Jan 09, 2010 11:18:13 am PST #6253 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Shir, thank you so much for sharing your perspective. It sounds like you have very valid issues, and I've wondered about many of them myself.

Will you need to resume communication? Not being snarky. And am very glad you have Vortex with you.

I am going to try and see how it goes. I do have genuine affection for him, and I'll miss him a lot, but we were never on an equal footing in the relationship and I am wary. I don't think he's going to like the conditions I will put on our interaction, such as I am not going to his place because a) that leads to cuddling and border-blurring and b) I'm fucking sick of soulless Morrisville after going there twice a week for the last year and a half.

Shared squee expands exponentially, right? Feels that way, anyway.

Yes, this! I love shared squee. I think I need to change my emo tag already. I love that song ("Gravity" by Sara Bareilles, also known as the "vampire routine" from SYTYCD) and it's very apropros to my relationship with KBD, but really I'm feeling better than that and I'm already tired of the tag. So poof! I banish it to my tag graveyard in my profile.

And if there was even a smidgen of doubt in anyone's mind, I am here to say that Vortex is mind-blowingly fabulous.


Cashmere - Jan 09, 2010 11:48:21 am PST #6254 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Beverly, the inside work will always be there, the excellent weather will not. SHOOO!


Katerina Bee - Jan 09, 2010 12:01:45 pm PST #6255 of 30000
Herding cats for fun

We have threatening-to-rain weather down south in Hayward, so shoo! Go enjoy the pretty day. Those boxes aren't going anywhere and the Pacific Northwest damp will be back soon.

Speaking of cleaning, I've hit on something that really works for me. When I am faced with a junk drawer or a box full of things I can't bear to sort out, I simply turn it over and empty it right onto the floor. Suddenly it becomes clear that this item is good only for the trash, while that is gotta go to Goodwill, and that over there is the doo-dad I didn't know I had to have to finish my project. It's so cool.

And now I've got a Drawer of Requirement in the kitchen! Too bad it isn't an entire spacious storage unit. That would be like super useful.