This affects me in a strange, which causes a very odd effect?
It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another.
Mal ,'Jaynestown'
Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.
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Aims - Dec 15, 2009 11:03:25 am PST #3760 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Steph L. - Dec 15, 2009 11:03:48 am PST #3761 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
But effect is NOT a verb. Evah. (right?)
Wrong. As a verb, "effect" means "to bring about." Like, "In her job, smonster effects change in the way students recycle."
Steph L. - Dec 15, 2009 11:05:29 am PST #3762 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I LOVE GEEKING OUT ABOUT LANGUAGE!
Ahem.
Carry on.
EpicTangent - Dec 15, 2009 11:06:51 am PST #3763 of 30000
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty
"Lay" is transitive; "lie" is intransitive.
Transitive is the one that takes object?
See, this helps me not at all. I can never remember the rules, I'm what I like to call (err, starting right now) an instinctive grammarian. I just know what I know - which makes the ones I don't know hard to figger. (Thankfully, lay/lie is one I just get). My instincts keep falling down on affect/effect, though.
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Dec 15, 2009 11:08:32 am PST #3764 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
All the grammar rules that annoy buffistas are things I struggle with... Things with which I struggle.
As a dyslexic person, I should not be as RAAAAH as I am about grammar. My spelling and sentence construction are... interesting. The fact that I happen to 'feel' my way through grammar fairly successfully is not anything that I achieved for myself.
I have trouble with the actual rule for affect/effect. I just know which one looks right and which one looks wrong. (You would not believe the grammar-rule-learning work I had to put in before I could teach linguistics.)
Dana - Dec 15, 2009 11:10:51 am PST #3765 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
That's the problem with effect and affect. One's normally a noun and one's a verb, except when one's a verb and one's a noun.
tommyrot - Dec 15, 2009 11:11:36 am PST #3766 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
One's normally a noun and one's a verb, except when one's a verb and one's a noun.
Quick, someone write a sentence that uses all four possibilities!
smonster - Dec 15, 2009 11:11:41 am PST #3767 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
Wrong. As a verb, "effect" means "to bring about." Like, "In her job, smonster effects change in the way students recycle."
But but but.. isn't that a pretty recent usage? B/c I hates it, precious.
tommyrot - Dec 15, 2009 11:12:37 am PST #3768 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
"The effect of the effected change affected my affect"?
smonster - Dec 15, 2009 11:13:44 am PST #3769 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
Or no wait... I think I have effect as a verb confused with impact as a verb. THAT'S the one I loathe.
Damn, can't even keep linguistic peccadillos straight.