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Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


smonster - Nov 12, 2009 1:37:06 pm PST #374 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Toni Morrison is at a cocktail party at Princeton with her colleagues, English professors and other visiting novelists. She uses the word "niggardly" in conversation. Is this okay because:

It would certainly give me pause, but I'll go with E.

E) She's a novelist and black and it is presumed she both knows how to use the word and that she's sensitive to how it might be misconstrued.

Given that she is a member of the group which might be directly offended, her race and the possibility of reclamation of the word is a factor.

Would I use that word in front of Toni Fucking Morrison?

Hell to the naw.


smonster - Nov 12, 2009 1:40:16 pm PST #375 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Back to catch up on the WHOLE THREAD that I skipped to post that...

Little does she know what awaits...

Oh, wait, she does! We're Buffistas!


Vortex - Nov 12, 2009 1:48:19 pm PST #376 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Please God, make my mother stop talking to me about her trip tot the gynecologist. Please.


DavidS - Nov 12, 2009 1:48:50 pm PST #377 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Because when I hear someone use "gay" to describe anything other than a gay person

Even rumba sleeves?

Would I use that word in front of Toni Fucking Morrison?

Me neither. But I'm also pretty sure she'd argue that the word didn't need to be reclaimed. That it's all cromulent and shit.

Heh. When you do an image search on "pusillaminous" the first thing that comes up is the Cowardly Lion.


DavidS - Nov 12, 2009 1:51:47 pm PST #378 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Btw, smonster, thanks for being so reasonable and gracious during the discussion.


Glamcookie - Nov 12, 2009 1:59:35 pm PST #379 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Because when I hear someone use "gay" to describe anything other than a gay person

Even rumba sleeves?

You know, it would probably depend on who I was talking to. If it were someone I knew well, it might not ping me. But if it were someone I didn't know well? I'd probably have an internal bad reaction to it. DW and I had a discussion with her cousin and his wife, both of whom we love dearly, about their use of the word "gay" as a derogatory term. We were shocked that they used it and they were shocked that we would be offended (duh!). But now they know and we are still in "couple love" with them.


Toddson - Nov 12, 2009 2:01:03 pm PST #380 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I've observed that the term "political correctness" is often used by people who are using it as a synonym for "forcing me to not say offensive shit."

This nails it. Teppy comes through again!


Toddson - Nov 12, 2009 2:03:39 pm PST #381 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

And, in addition to rumba sleeves, never underestimate the power of the maracas.


smonster - Nov 12, 2009 2:08:09 pm PST #382 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Btw, smonster, thanks for being so reasonable and gracious during the discussion.

Back atcha. So much more nuanced a discussion than I could have almost anywhere else. Love me some Buffistas.


Trudy Booth - Nov 12, 2009 2:10:03 pm PST #383 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Anyone see the recent South Park where the boys have to have the dictionary changed so that the new definition of "Fags" is "Guys who ride Harley Davidsons and make a bunch of noise"?