Can we maybe vote on the whole murdering people issue?

Wash ,'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

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erikaj - Aug 17, 2010 8:12:47 am PDT #28919 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

wrod. Also, welcome to my world.


Connie Neil - Aug 17, 2010 8:16:52 am PDT #28920 of 30000
brillig

It's Mormon thing, too, all about the "We were driven out into the wilderness!", which is actually true. But they don't see the corollary to driving others out into metaphorical wildernesses. It's a willful blindness that really annoys me, and freaks out the True Believers when I bring it up.


amyth - Aug 17, 2010 8:20:35 am PDT #28921 of 30000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Yeah, Andrew Sullivan said yesterday on his blog that the one Republican he wanted to hear from on the issue was Mitt Romney.


smonster - Aug 17, 2010 8:21:30 am PDT #28922 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

My Persecution is More Relevant Than Your Persecution.

I love Passover because the Haggadah we use puts heavy emphasis on empathy for those suffering. "As long as there is slavery, none are free". And the pouring out of wine for the plagues, and God smacking down the angels during the Red Sea thing by saying "My creatures are perishing, and you rejoice?"

The point is not the Oppression Olympics. The point is opening up, not closing down. The point is not the suffering, but one's response.


Volans - Aug 17, 2010 8:23:13 am PDT #28923 of 30000
move out and draw fire

My condolences to you and Wallybee and her family-of-of-choice, bt.


erikaj - Aug 17, 2010 8:24:22 am PDT #28924 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

My second cousin is actually a big-deal theology prof at BYU, Connie.(And my mother's Perfect "Why can't you be more like...Cousin.) we...don't talk. But I do know something about that. Also, he visited us when I was a kid and apparently found Gentile ketchup fascinating...a theological schism I didn't know about...maybe Heinz sounds too ethnic? Seriously, if you're Christian, and Lutherans are cross-cultural for you, you officially do not get out enough. Especially Easter Sunday Lutherans like we were.


Jessica - Aug 17, 2010 8:27:16 am PDT #28925 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Also, he visited us when I was a kid and apparently found Gentile ketchup fascinating

Huh - is HFCS on the list of Mormon Don'ts along with caffiene and alcohol?


erikaj - Aug 17, 2010 8:33:18 am PDT #28926 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Not that I know of...but I think he spent so little time with non-Mormons that we were a little anthropology, in general. He did watch us eat...I just mentioned ketchup cause Neil Simon says K's are funny.


Connie Neil - Aug 17, 2010 8:42:41 am PDT #28927 of 30000
brillig

I don't know where he gets off on being weird about ketchup, I think it's considered its own food group in Utah.

also, the Word of Wisdom, ie, the source of the food and drink rules, is obeyed more in theory. Very few restaurants have caffeine-free options for soft drinks, and no one's complaining. I am not the only one who declares you'll take my diet Coke from my cold dead fingers. And pointing out the chocolate contains caffeine makes them very twitchy and quick to point out, "Well, the Word of Wisdom is actually referring to alcohol and hot drinks."


Hil R. - Aug 17, 2010 8:44:29 am PDT #28928 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I've spent most of the morning and afternoon so far putting together a kitchen cart. It's almost done now -- I need to assemble one more drawer, then put on the top. I think I might take a nap first. This thing is going to be very cool when it's done, but it's taking forever.