I can respect Cindy's opinion (though I disagree)--because she clearly understands the difference between having a right to do it, and something being a little ooky to some people. I think it's OK for some people to be upset. Heck--forget the space AROUND Ground Zero--I'm sure some (many?) people are/will be upset by what the memorial at the actual Ground Zero looks like, when that happens. And that's OK. They have a right to their opinions, and they may even have a point (...all theoretical in my mind here, since I have no idea what any memorial will look like or encompass). Say if one group wanted to list everyone's names, and another group wanted to just have a more abstract memorial. But that doesn't mean that there shouldn't BE a memorial, or that either group couldn't eventually ...remember(? do whatever you do at a memorial) there.

Hey, Steph, if you gotta spend the money, opt for the most efficient thing you can get; it`s worth it if you can swing it. And remember to put any air conditioning unit in the shade if possible, that`ll reduce your bills going forward as well.

WellI won't be getting any of my answers because he's declared the conversation over since we both understand each others positions.

Even though I honestly don't understand his position. He says it's provocative but can't give me a good reason except some people are offended.

if you gotta spend the money, opt for the most efficient thing you can get; it`s worth it if you can swing it.

We've been talking about that; efficiency is good, plus it means tax credit.

I wish we had the time and money to have a geothermal system put in, but time is of the essence right now, and, alas, we are not made of money. (My grandmother's famous saying regarding requests for money, which we all repeat often, is, "What? Do you think I shit nickels?")

That's too bad, askye. But than I put myself in the place of not being able to understand. I know that my own prejudices can effect my reason. However, even when I can't let go of them - I always know that it is wrong.

What? Do you think I shit nickels?

I think that would be painful

I think it'll be just easier if I defriend him. I've been baffled by many of his views. From the healthcare issue he doesn't believe people have a right to health care (it's a privilege). He also doesn't believe marriage is a fundamental right and that the government shouldn't be marrying anyone. And there should be no legal protections for marriage -- because if the gayz marry then why can't siblings?

Matt, I wish you would delurk more often. Your comments are marvelous. Also, I don't know how Beth keeps from licking your spicy brains to smithereens.

I feel like that would cause lots of weird spasms.