Robin, we totally are!

Liese, thanks.

ETA: editing my RL name out, since I'm talking about RL folks in here, and not necessarily in a flattering light. Robin, if you didn't catch my name, or if any Buffistas don't already know it, feel free to contact me via my profile addy. You too can be part of Facebook funtimes!

NYT article

It's a constant goal, and I far from achieve it, may in fact never do.

this is the plan we've been talking about the last year. Esp. with DH's last job ( not current ) being so utterly evil - I needed to come up with a way to take the money burden off him. And less stuff is a big part of the plan. and less debt. ( house debt won't go away --- yet) If we get rid of debt , than matt can be more flexible about work. That is greater happiness. The funny thing is he didn't really understand that I am trying to make it so we can live on about half our current income in about 10 years. I have know idea if we can do it, but it is a worthwhile goal

That's great, beth. I don't know if you can do it, either, but what a great goal!

That is a pretty awesome goal.

I am trying to make it so we can live on about half our current income in about 10 years.

That is a worthwhile goal. More and more I am for the reduction of Stuff and Responsibility.

Amy, and Aims, actually, and anyone else (Sean recently comes to mind) here who fits:

Thank you. Thank you for taking the time to be honest and sincere and thoughtful and mindful and patient on Facebook and everywhere else you might share your opinion on Things that Matter.

I mean it. You might think that it's a waste of time or typing and that it's just a frustrating argument, but remember: lots and lots of your friends are reading your intelligent and heartfelt posts. The way you describe the situation, using facts and clear-headedness, and above all, never reducing to name-calling, sets an *example*.

It takes courage and commmittment to be the voice of reason. And I mean it about setting an example--an incredibly important one. You might not get lots of comments from other people, but you can be sure they're reading them. And they're touched by them. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but at some point, the posts like the ones you made about the mosque and the ones about Prop 8 that Sean recently made - those will stick in peoples' minds ands maybe eventually reach their hearts.

And it's a seed. It's a seed that is important to plant - that seed of understanding, of not belittling your debate foe, of not reducing everything to a soundbite. It's important and I sincerely thank you for taking the time to plant it.

java - I certainly hope you are including yourself on that list. You take the time to pose questions to people about where they are coming from even if you know the answer is going to be something you fundamentally disagree with. And that? Is also very important.

I love us.

I'm just going to let Aims be my spokesmodel all over the Interwebs.

java, you are the awesomest.

I'm just going to let Aims be my spokesmodel all over the Interwebs.

I'd be proud to do so!

On a related note, memo to Ross Douthat [link] : Welcoming the stranger is not just a political ideal, it is also a cultural value. A pretty important one in the America I grew up in, actually. The America that knew that those immigration restrictions you speak of so highly killed many of my relatives.