Dreg: Glory, Your Most Fresh-And-Cleanness. It's only a matter of time-- Glory: Ugh, everything always takes time! What about my time? Does anyone appreciate I'm on a schedule here?! Tick tock, Dreg! Tick freakin' tock!

'Sleeper'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Trudy Booth - Jul 02, 2010 8:23:30 pm PDT #24596 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

When y'all make kale chips, do you eat them all at once, or can you make a bunch and stick them in tupperware?


DavidS - Jul 02, 2010 8:24:50 pm PDT #24597 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But if you take the Maggie May lyrics literally, she has lured him away from home, and talked him into dropping out of school.

Yeah, but he's not bitter about it. Merely rueful. The entire song is affectionate instead of angry.

One thing the songs do have in common is that they were both based on personal experience. "Maggie May" is the story of Rod's sexual initiation with an older woman he met at a jazz festival. Like many young men in that situation he wasn't keen to leave, and felt himself falling for her. But she knew that he wouldn't stay and was but callow.

In the end they each used the other a bit but I think his vocal clearly indicates he's fond of her, though the memory is bittersweet.

Alanis, however, is just plain bitter and righteously pissed.


WindSparrow - Jul 02, 2010 8:54:51 pm PDT #24598 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

But if you take the Maggie May lyrics literally, she has lured him away from home, and talked him into dropping out of school.

Someone who can be talked out of being in school, doesn't want to be there in the first place. He's got alternatives - playing in a band, or pool hustling. Or, hell, even though it is not stated, he could drop back into school. The young woman in "You Oughta Know" is so emotionally destroyed that she feels no alternatives, no future.

That's hurt and anger. And yeah hurt and anger at someone you are still in love with. But not amused exasperation and affection.

I find it hard to hear only hurt and anger in, "All you did was wreck my bed, and in the morning kick me in the head." Can you really tell me that, "the morning light really shows your age, but that don't bother me none, in my eyes you are everything," isn't fondness? Or at least, the level of hurt and anger are so much more benevolent as to not be paralleled in "You Oughta Know.


Connie Neil - Jul 02, 2010 9:25:09 pm PDT #24599 of 30000
brillig

Huh, and most of what I hear in "You Oughta Know" is "I'm a creepy stalker person and on the whole you're probably better off without me." But then, I let these things stand on their own and don't study the back stories, so I'm probably not a well-informed consumer of art.


erin_obscure - Jul 02, 2010 11:18:42 pm PDT #24600 of 30000
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Something I've wondered - if you reversed the genders of "You Oughta Know," would it still work the same? Or is the song essentially a female complaint?

you'd have to change the line about "and would she have your baby, i'm sure she'd make a really excellent mother." otherwise i can see a guy having the same level of rage after a really bad breakup.


Sean K - Jul 02, 2010 11:57:15 pm PDT #24601 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

so. very. tired.


omnis_audis - Jul 03, 2010 12:00:44 am PDT #24602 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Welcome home Sean!
:: tacklehugs ::


Sean K - Jul 03, 2010 12:03:25 am PDT #24603 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

ow


Sean K - Jul 03, 2010 12:04:42 am PDT #24604 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

both my car and my phone are bricks

i have two different techs this weekend

shift key and punctuation too much effort

spacebargoingnext


erin_obscure - Jul 03, 2010 12:31:57 am PDT #24605 of 30000
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

{{{{{Sean}}}}}