Smonster, I did that to my grandfather the other day and I'm still feeling awful about it.
Sweetie, we're crooks. If everything were right, we'd be in jail.
Wash ,'Serenity'
Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
sj - Jun 30, 2010 6:05:17 pm PDT #24397 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Atropa - Jun 30, 2010 6:08:12 pm PDT #24398 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
A quick first world, it's so hard to be me whine: dear lord, I am NEVER going to be done dealing with all of the friend requests on FB, am I? And oh goodness, the OH SO SERIOUS photos of some of the babybats. Bless.
Steph L. - Jun 30, 2010 6:14:47 pm PDT #24399 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
a dog's mind is thoroughly in the moment...all the time. She can't remember being shot, or abandoned, or any of it.
I honestly didn't know this. I mean, I didn't think they remembered trauma in the way that a mature human mind can, but I assumed that, for instance, Chloe being skittish about people touching her nubby tail and hindquarters was because she was hurt there, and has -- I guess I would call it a sense memory of being hurt there.
Could she be skittish about being touched on her nubby because of (1) genuine pain (which the vet has never indicated is a possibility), or (2) because of *our* assumptions about it and subsequent actions (like, hesitance to touch the nubby, etc.), which she then picks up on?
Trudy Booth - Jun 30, 2010 6:19:18 pm PDT #24400 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
a dog's mind is thoroughly in the moment...all the time. She can't remember being shot, or abandoned, or any of it.
I'm not sure I buy that. I mean, is there some neurological basis there? Or is it a pet-psychic thing? I've certainly heard the latter say otherwise.
Trudy Booth - Jun 30, 2010 6:23:52 pm PDT #24401 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Then again, if my frequent bellows of "DALLAS! NO!" are any indication she can't remember after sixteen frikkin years to stay out of the trash.
DCJensen - Jun 30, 2010 6:36:28 pm PDT #24402 of 30000
All is well that ends in pizza.
Skipping and skimming, going back later. I had to post this.
Looks like they are going to try and make the movie:
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
omnis_audis - Jun 30, 2010 6:45:57 pm PDT #24403 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir
I am NEVER going to be done dealing with all of the friend requests on FB, am I? And oh goodness, the OH SO SERIOUS photos of some of the babybats. Bless.Dunno the process of this, but maybe create a GCS "fan of" facebook, and then I think you don't have to accept friends of. And then change your facebook to an all new private account for folks you actually know. I think that's doable.
Atropa - Jun 30, 2010 6:50:43 pm PDT #24404 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
And then change your facebook to an all new private account for folks you actually know.
Eh, my facebook is entirely public and for promotional purposes, anyway. I just need to go create a custom list of the people I want to read, instead of scrolling through all (good God!) 891 "friends".
Burrell - Jun 30, 2010 6:58:52 pm PDT #24405 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
I just need to go create a custom list of the people I want to read, instead of scrolling through all (good God!) 891 "friends".
That is a very sane plan.
beekaytee - Jun 30, 2010 7:05:01 pm PDT #24406 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant
Could she be skittish about being touched on her nubby because of (1) genuine pain (which the vet has never indicated is a possibility), or (2) because of *our* assumptions about it and subsequent actions (like, hesitance to touch the nubby, etc.), which she then picks up on?
Yes and yes. She may have developed a patterned preference for having her nub left alone and anytime she has shied away from being touched there, YOU were patterned to expect a negative response. It becomes a cyclical thing.
She may not be in physical pain, though it is very difficult to tell such things with out muscle testing technology. For instance, Bartleby had a broken tooth for six months when I got him. I actually brushed exposed pulp without knowing it and he never flinched. I've heard loads of stories like that.
It may be that the skin stretched over the nub is uncomfortable when touched or stretched.
If you were of a mind to, you could train her out of disliking having her nub touched by making every touch a jackpot experience for her. But, unless it is a problem with vets needing access that she denies, I think you could chock it up to, she doesn't like it. Goodness knows, I don't like having MY nub touched. (uninvited, of course)
I really need to do some hardcore reviewing of the clinical research on this subject, but in the meanwhile, I can say that most behaviorists suggest the very strong difference between associative and sense memory.
"My dog hates [fill in the blank] people"...which I hear far too often...is bollocks because dogs have no association of 'what [fill in the blank] people are like.' Not even if such a person abused them in some way. There is simply not enough of the right kind of cortex for that neurological association.
The one exception is persons of diminished capacity who have unbalanced energy whom dogs generally perceive as either threats or targets.
"My dog doesn't like storms" is based on a physical preference that is reinforced by the memory of the humans around them.
It's fascinating stuff that I try to simplify by suggesting that there are certain things we can tell by a dog's behavior and MANY more things that we make assumptions about. When in doubt, take the most practical, least intellectual route and your dog will thank you for it.