It's possible that he's in the land of perpetual Wednesday, or the crazy melty land, or you know, the world without shrimp.

Anya ,'Showtime'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Stephanie - Jun 12, 2010 10:17:29 am PDT #22264 of 30000
Trust my rage

seska, come to natter!


Jessica - Jun 12, 2010 10:24:52 am PDT #22265 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

A better comparison might be to Irish-Americans giving money to the IRA in bars without really thinking what is is they were supporting in the 70's.

Helen Thomas was a professional journalist for over 50 years. I expect her to have a slightly more sophisticated understanding of international politics than your average barfly.


sj - Jun 12, 2010 10:26:25 am PDT #22266 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Thanks, Shir! It hasn't been too bad thanks to liberal amounts of prosecco.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 12, 2010 10:33:38 am PDT #22267 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

seska, come to natter!

It scares me! But OK - just for the World Cup game :)


Zenkitty - Jun 12, 2010 10:43:30 am PDT #22268 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Having a bit of a thunderstorm here. I got back from my errands just in time! Now to nap. My life is so exciting.


Shir - Jun 12, 2010 10:44:22 am PDT #22269 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

loves Seska


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 12, 2010 10:46:26 am PDT #22270 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Back atcha, Shir! (Oh, The Girl is thinking through stuff re your Hollaback project and will be replying to you soon. She may have a couple of contacts.)


Shir - Jun 12, 2010 10:51:45 am PDT #22271 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Again, virtual friends: better than real life friends who don't even bother to pick up the phone and ask if I'm alright.

You're gold, you.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 12, 2010 10:54:11 am PDT #22272 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

virtual friends

In what alternate universe are The Girl and I your 'virtual' friends, please, Shir m'dear? :P


Typo Boy - Jun 12, 2010 11:02:27 am PDT #22273 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

2006 is only four years ago. Seems pretty recent to me. And yes I expect a journalist to have more sophistication than that. That is why I said it was right that she fired. But just - she's been a great journalist all her life, she suffered the consequences of her mistake. Also her position would not have been an unreasonable one in 1947, but is anti-semitic in 2010. Different historical circumstances.

And I'll post on that eventually. But I will say that the Portugal/Italy etc. comparison is not valid for two reasons: The boundaries had to be gerrymandered to get a Jewish majority with the best land and water going to one third of the population, and the worst land and water going to two thirds. Second this was not like people were being granted independence where they were born : the "majority" even in Gerrymandered Israel only existed because of recent immigration taking place against the will of the people already there. That is not comparable to legitimate nation formation. More like what happened when Britain, Spain, France and Portugal stole the Americans from the American Indians. Nobody today thinks that is legitimate, but nobody today thinks everybody of European background should be thrown out of North American. (I should not say nobody - not very many people.) Even in 47, expulsion was not fair. But neither was letting a recent immigrant minority take over AND CONTROL a large swathe of territory in which others had lived and constituted a majority for hundreds of years.

If it turned out the Untouchables in India were descended from the ancient Fomorations, they would hot be granted a right of return to take over Ireland.