What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective. Kind of a M.C. Escher perspective, but I did get time to think.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Zenkitty - Jun 11, 2010 10:24:58 am PDT #22110 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

What P.-C. said.


omnis_audis - Jun 11, 2010 10:27:29 am PDT #22111 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Shir, can your friends with Women in Black help any?

How come florescent lights look red for a few minutes after I come in from the sun?

Florescent lights generally have a green hue to them. I think red and green are opposite on the color wheel. I'm guessing it has something to do with iris clamped down from daylight, and perception over compensating. Or something along those lines. But I'm a sound guy. So I might be a bit off


Shir - Jun 11, 2010 10:30:33 am PDT #22112 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I'm not that close with anyone on WiB, omnis. But I'm gonna send some more emails tomorrow. People tend to respond better to personal addressed emails than to a tweet.


Daisy Jane - Jun 11, 2010 10:36:35 am PDT #22113 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Not meant to distract from Shir's awesomeness (which she totally is, awesome I mean), but I bring you this [link]

Mostly because I thought it was over here that someone was complaining about weak fingernails.


Shari_H - Jun 11, 2010 10:46:16 am PDT #22114 of 30000
Keep breathing!

As for the second remark... well, part of me wants to agree. I don't know if it's because it's my first language, but I feel Hebrew differently. Something in it, in there. It's in my bones, the meaning of the words, and their origins. I can tell what's Aramic and what's from Chazal and what's from the Bible.

I totally understand this. It's why I love Hebrew - it's built in a way that retains the original meaning of words and the associations so that every word has a richness and history that I don't find so much in English. I don't really think about the etymologies of "cow" versus "beef" although I know there's a story there, but with Hebrew there's much more of a sense of how things are connected and how they've been used before.

Side note for the non-Hebrew speaking (the pedant tag REALLY never closes!) - Shir can correct me if I'm wrong, but I learned about a funny story, give me a minute to explain.

Hebrew is built on "roots" - usually three-letter foundations that are vocalized or formatted in different ways to give different meanings. So: to write, to correspond, to dictate, a writer (person), a typewriter, etc. are all based on the same three consonants. When the Hebrew language was revived (end of the 19th c.) Eliezer Ben Yehuda tried to use that root system to develop words that hadn't been needed before - and others did likewise when the state was established and the language grew. Someone tried to make a Hebrew word for archaeologist based on the root for "to reveal". Today, an archaeologist is a "archaeolog" in Hebrew and the root-word derived to fill that niche is used for "stripper". Not what old Ben Yehuda had in mind!

Likewise the root-word developed for "telephone" - "sach-rechok" had no chance against the much-easier to pronounce "telefon". Israelis are much less uptight about that sort of thing than the French.

Now I'll shut off the computer and go get ready for Shabbat. Have a good weekend, all.


Jessica - Jun 11, 2010 10:56:56 am PDT #22115 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Hebrew is built on "roots" - usually three-letter foundations that are vocalized or formatted in different ways to give different meanings.

This pops up very occasionally in English too, probably the result of a proto-semitic language bumping up against a proto-european language at some point in the distant past. (Google is totally failing to provide me with any actual examples, of course, and my History of Human Language lecture is on my computer at home. Blast.)


amych - Jun 11, 2010 10:57:52 am PDT #22116 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

::bats eyelashes at the language geeking::


meara - Jun 11, 2010 11:02:35 am PDT #22117 of 30000

Ooh, language geeking is fun! :)


Gudanov - Jun 11, 2010 11:04:25 am PDT #22118 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

Everyone likes a cunning linguist.


Shir - Jun 11, 2010 11:23:01 am PDT #22119 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Today, an archaeologist is a "archaeolog" in Hebrew and the root-word derived to fill that niche is used for "stripper".

Ha, I had no idea "hasfan" was suggested as a word for archaeologist!

Likewise the root-word developed for "telephone" - "sach-rechok" had no chance against the much-easier to pronounce "telefon". Israelis are much less uptight about that sort of thing than the French.

OMG. The ckh sound that French sometimes makes you pronounce? And to think that people are complaining about "ch" in Hebrew! I need to have a sip of water after speaking 2 sentences with that ckh sound in French, dammit.

This pops up very occasionally in English too, probably the result of a proto-semitic language bumping up against a proto-european language at some point in the distant past. (Google is totally failing to provide me with any actual examples, of course, and my History of Human Language lecture is on my computer at home. Blast.)

Go to Euskara. If the theory is right, then it should have Semitic roots (unless that happened after the Indo-and what's currently-European invasion).

One of the great stories in Hebrew and roots is about the words for choir (makhela) and orchestra (tizmoret). There was a misunderstanding about which word should be used for which term, and to this day, tizmoret, which means "a group of singers", is used for "a group of players".

Shabat Shalom, Shari!