You always think harder is better. Maybe next time I patrol, I should carry bricks and use a stake made out of butter.

Buffy ,'The Killer In Me'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


smonster - Nov 12, 2009 7:39:20 am PST #215 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

No, but I never used the word "jew" in that way.

That's not the point, which I suspect you already know. The point is that "jew" and "gyp" are exact parallels, synonyms for "cheat" which embody negative cultural stereotypes about Jews and Gypsies, respectively. Both are in current usage, though "gypped" seems to be more common.

So, if "jew" was in your personal vocab, would you continue to use it, or is it only okay to denigrate gypsies and not jews? Does it matter to you that the Roma/Romani see the very term "gypsy" as an insult? Is it okay if you don't know any Gypsies?

The bottom line is that you put your freedom to use culturally offensive words over the feelings of those offended. Can you think of a time when you use equivalently offensive terms that apply to your own ethnic group? If not, I'd like you to consider that your privilege may be involved.

Yes, this is an emotional issue for me, being culturally half-Jewish and haveing lived in a country for two years where "tsigani" (Roma) are pretty much treated like blacks in the pre-Civil Rights era.

editing to clarify that my sensitivity to culturally offensive words is not limited to those groups of which I am a part or with which I feel affinity.

also, I am stepping away to cool off and prep for a meeting. will return later today.


Cashmere - Nov 12, 2009 7:51:13 am PST #216 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

I think about it fairly often because Carlene Carter didn't realize her parents Johnny Cash and June Carter were in the audience one night when she introduced a song by saying, "This'll put the cunt back in Country" and June turned all red and upset.

Carlene was June's daughter by her first marriage. Johnny was her stepfather.


DavidS - Nov 12, 2009 7:53:52 am PST #217 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Carlene was June's daughter by her first marriage. Johnny was her stepfather.

I know that. That doesn't mean he wasn't her parent.


Cashmere - Nov 12, 2009 8:02:46 am PST #218 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Sorry! I really read that weird.

I would also like to note that after this week, my brain is mush.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 12, 2009 8:12:08 am PST #219 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

"If sir wishes, I will indeed consent to being 'scanned,' as it were, by the Magnetic Resonance Imaging apparatus."

GENIUS.

If possibly one too many levels of postmodern. Heh.

Shir, I too am impressed by your chutzpah (a word I love, and learnt from The Girl) with hanging that painting on your wall. And it's fab.

And then I scanned posts, 'cos tired. Back to work now.


WindSparrow - Nov 12, 2009 8:14:11 am PST #220 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Cash, it's good to see you here. I'm hoping you are back to feeling somewhat better after your bout with flu.

That's not the point, which I suspect you already know. The point is that "jew" and "gyp" are exact parallels, synonyms for "cheat" which embody negative cultural stereotypes about Jews and Gypsies, respectively. Both are in current usage, though "gypped" seems to be more common.

I confess to having used the word "gypped" freely in my youth, as it was commonly heard. Not having seen it written out, I imagined it spelled as "jipped". When I did see it in print, realized it was less savory than I thought, I released it from my vocabulary.


Jessica - Nov 12, 2009 8:14:14 am PST #221 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

chutzpah (a word I love, and learnt from The Girl)

Living in Brooklyn, it cracks me up that "chutzpah" would ever have to be explained.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 12, 2009 8:19:28 am PST #222 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Living in Brooklyn, it cracks me up that "chutzpah" would ever have to be explained.

I'm British... :P


Jessica - Nov 12, 2009 8:23:30 am PST #223 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

You Brits, with your lifts and your lorries and your extra u's and your lack of Yiddish slang.


tommyrot - Nov 12, 2009 8:24:42 am PST #224 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

You Brits, with your lifts and your lorries and your extra u's and your lack of Yiddish slang.

And spanners! Only a Brit would throw a spanner in the works.

eta: And torches! Brits have electric torches, somewhat like our flashlights....