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'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Typo Boy - May 31, 2010 9:22:03 am PDT #20926 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Still have not heard. According to free Gaza movement, cement, water filters and stuff not sanctioned is NOT passed into Gaza. If the ship was just carrying food and medicine it could have been passed on, but not these goods which are not allowed. (Cement might be allowed if you can tell exactly what building it will be used in. But this is intended to repair the sewage and water supply which is too general.) So can you explain when the policy changed where stuff Israel had announced was not allowed is now allowed in?


Shir - May 31, 2010 9:46:52 am PDT #20927 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

So can you explain when the policy changed where stuff Israel had announced was not allowed is now allowed in?

It never changed, as much as I know.


Typo Boy - May 31, 2010 9:49:49 am PDT #20928 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK - so the stuff coming by flotilla had no other way to get in.


Shir - May 31, 2010 9:52:52 am PDT #20929 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Nope, unless they'd let Israel to check them at Ashdod harbor first (and as long as they aren't cement or weapon, they should have been given a green light).

Edit: and for those of you who were wondering at home, no, the new information from today's conversation about "who is more to be blamed" (which, at times, got to the grotesque of my talk mates naming one country by the other and naming their crimes and oppression in compression to the event) didn't make me feel better. Just more desperate.


Typo Boy - May 31, 2010 10:18:25 am PDT #20930 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Not just cement. Also the water filters would not have been let in. Everything they were carrying was on the banned list. Children are dying of diseases in Gaza because supplies to repair the water and sewage systems are not allowed in. So none of what the ship was carrying would have allowed in. It was all on the banned list.

This was not a stupid tactic. It gave Israel the choice of letting in stuff on the banned list (none of which was weapons but all of which was still banned with some pretty bad excuse) or acting like brutes. Either way it weakens the siege. So if people were prepared for the danger it was not a stupid tactic. And the siege is not going to be lifted by letters to the editor.

What was against the policy of the flotilla was fighting back. I don't know if attacking in international waters was piracy legally but it was certainly wrong. But the whole point of non-violent resistance against a violent and brutal enemy is you resist non-violently. You don't throw people to the ground or defend yourself with knifes and belaying pins or whatever the heck the fought back against the Israeli attack with. I mean I don't know if I could do it, the worst I've sat still for is pepper spray in my eyes and having an arm wrenched. But still when you pledge to non-violence you pledge to stay non-violent even in the face of armed attack. The organizers of the flottilla needed to, I don't know screen the people on board better? Train them better? But that some people actually chose to defend themselves does not excuse the attack. [Edit: which I know you are not defending.]

And as I said it will take strong tactics to break the siege of Gaza. I hope the Israeli peace movement will support comparatively non-violent means like Flotillas, like Boycott, Divest and Sanction. These things beat the heck out of suicide bombings and rocket attacks.


Atropa - May 31, 2010 10:26:13 am PDT #20931 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Paging Jilli, I found a bag of the body-art quality henna and indigo from hennaforhair.com that I bought last year (I think), and then chickened out of using. If you want it, it's yours.

Ooooh, yes please! Email me at my profile addy.


Hil R. - May 31, 2010 10:35:08 am PDT #20932 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My mother is making me watch "The Blind Side," because she says this is such a good movie and I just have to see it and be inspired. We're an hour in, and I'm still not even interested, certainly not inspired. I think I'm missing whatever emotional thing makes people like this movie.


sj - May 31, 2010 11:06:16 am PDT #20933 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

My family is being incredibly loud per usual. I just read the same paragraph 4 times before giving up on the book I was trying to read.


Jessica - May 31, 2010 11:14:18 am PDT #20934 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I probably shouldn't complain that I look fat in all the beach pics if I'm sitting here eating Cheez-Its out of the box while I look at them, huh?


javachik - May 31, 2010 11:25:09 am PDT #20935 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I was surprised by how much I enjoyed "The Blind Side" but if you don't like it an hour in, then why not just stop watching it?