I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


§ ita § - May 07, 2010 1:04:37 pm PDT #18577 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The guy may exist, but he isn't Indigo's father.

You're so timeist.

The concept "Indigo Henna's father" required an individual at the time of its existence, and that's who must be avenged, even if Indigo is whammied out of continuity.


-t - May 07, 2010 1:24:33 pm PDT #18578 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Indigo Henna exists in potentia, If Indigo Henna's father is out there now, making swords or dying hair or whatever, just about to meet Indigo Henna's mother. If we knew who he was, maybe we could avert the whole tragedy!


Zenkitty - May 07, 2010 1:27:08 pm PDT #18579 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

The concept "Indigo Henna's father" required an individual at the time of its existence

The fact that a thing can be conceived, thought of and spoken of doesn't require that thing actually exists. I can talk about Jacques the father of my son Daniel, but Daniel doesn't exist, and therefore Jacques-the-father-of-Daniel does not exist, even though Jacques may. (He does.) If Indigo Henna doesn't exist, Mandy-the-father-of-Indigo doesn't exist, even if Mandy does.


§ ita § - May 07, 2010 1:34:54 pm PDT #18580 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm with -t in the in potentia camp. Somewhere there may be an Indigo Henna that hasn't actuated, and that germ's father may need help.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 07, 2010 1:41:25 pm PDT #18581 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

~ma for your grandfather, Polter-Cow.

Sorry. Indigo what now? Did I get hit on the head?

The British don't use proportional voting -- it's first-past-the-post, in each electoral district.

And that's why the Lib Dems support electoral reform. And why I support them. (Unless they make a pact with the devil the Conseratives no, I was right the first time. I shall now wander away muttering.)

Bedward, ho. Elections involve far, far too little sleep.


Calli - May 07, 2010 1:54:20 pm PDT #18582 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I love how the thread moved from puns to philosophy in five posts and never lost the colorants.


Zenkitty - May 07, 2010 2:19:19 pm PDT #18583 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

So the man who would have been Indigo's father might still be killed by Excessive-Digits Man even if Indigo never exists, and we know of his peril because we know what would have happened if Indigo had existed, and with our knowledge of things in potentia, we could theoretically save Indigo's would-have-been father? We are as gods!


-t - May 07, 2010 2:22:23 pm PDT #18584 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Unless by trying to save Indigo's father we cause his death, as so often happens. In which case, would we need to wreak vengeance...on ourselves?


Zenkitty - May 07, 2010 2:23:30 pm PDT #18585 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

No, it's still Excessive-Digits Man's fault, because we wouldn't have needed to try and save the guy if EDM hadn't been so bloodthirsty.


-t - May 07, 2010 2:28:46 pm PDT #18586 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

So if we are wreaking vengeance on EDM, we might as well be known as Indigo Henna. Nom de vengeance.