This must be what going mad feels like.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Fay - Feb 23, 2010 6:10:32 am PST #10851 of 30000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

lisah, I understand that this is touching a nerve for you because you are in the middle of medical problems yourself, and as such you seem to be taking Katie's comment about her own situation as an attack upon the medical professionals who are dealing with you.

But, really, it wasn't. She said she is feeling frightened. She made a joke about how dying alone and unaided seems less intimidating than dealing with the people who have dealt with her so far, and who have, by their behaviour towards her, caused her to feel so frightened and angry that she's indulging in a rant in a safe space. And she made it clear that she was aware this was not a fair and measured statement, but was rather hyperbole and venting brought about by fear and frustration, by adding

"(rant, rave, fume, expostulate)."

I am very happy to hear that the medical professionals who are dealing with you and yours have NOT treated you or your loved ones in a manner that would make you frightened to face them, or want to make nervous jokes about preferring to just die in the back yard. That's terrific.

And I am very sorry indeed that Katie has not had the pleasure of such compassionate and helpful service, and is feeling so daunted at the prospect of having to go back to the hospital after having such bad experiences.

I really hope she gets the chance to experience the kind of positive and compassionate service you're talking about, and I equally hope you don't ever have the kind of humiliating and reductive experience that she's had to date, and which a number of other Buffistas have clearly experienced too.


Connie Neil - Feb 23, 2010 6:12:00 am PST #10852 of 30000
brillig

So we never rant because we may hurt someone? Are we going to have to preface every honest outburst of rage and pain with "You guys know I don't mean you or anyone you know or anyone you may have known and love or may know and love?" I thought that was understood. I thought that's what Buffistas, and most specifically Bitches, was for.


Steph L. - Feb 23, 2010 6:14:48 am PST #10853 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So we never rant because we may hurt someone? Are we going to have to preface every honest outburst of rage and pain with "You guys know I don't mean you or anyone you know or anyone you may have known and love or may know and love?" I thought that was understood. I thought that's what Buffistas, and most specifically Bitches, was for.

That's basically what I was about to post, Connie. Isn't it understood that a rant -- hell, basically any post -- is an opinion, not statement of fact on How The World Is, since we none of us are King or Queen of the world?


Aims - Feb 23, 2010 6:15:39 am PST #10854 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t ahem.


Steph L. - Feb 23, 2010 6:17:20 am PST #10855 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Come, now! I didn't say that none of us are the *Empress*!

I'm not that foolhardy.


Gudanov - Feb 23, 2010 6:17:31 am PST #10856 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

since we none of us are King or Queen of the world?

Not yet anyhow.


Aims - Feb 23, 2010 6:18:16 am PST #10857 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Come, now! I didn't say that none of us are the *Empress*!

You did indeed qualify that. My over-inflated ego thanks you.


Daisy Jane - Feb 23, 2010 6:20:04 am PST #10858 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

So some people's hurt is more legit than others'? I think we can rant, but I also think we can recognize when we hit someone we care about with the shotgun blast.


Connie Neil - Feb 23, 2010 6:21:42 am PST #10859 of 30000
brillig

we can recognize when we hit someone we care about with the shotgun blast.

Such as saying "No one I know has ever been a jerkass, incompetent doctor, how dare you vent your fear and frustration on doctors"?


Daisy Jane - Feb 23, 2010 6:25:56 am PST #10860 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

No, as in, "I have legitimate issues, and in going on an exaggerated rant about it, I hurt some of my friends, and I'm sorry."