Captain Kirk is climbing a mountain. Why is he climbing a mountain?
It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another.
Mal ,'Jaynestown'
Natter 64: Yes, we still need you
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
shrift - Sep 09, 2009 3:52:30 pm PDT #7682 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
Steph L. - Sep 09, 2009 3:52:31 pm PDT #7683 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I really don't find "they're a big lobby" a sufficient excuse - lobbies are only as powerful as politicians allow them to be.
Oh, I totally agree.
Whoa. Rethuglicans just stood up and applauded. That was scary.
Stephanie - Sep 09, 2009 3:54:00 pm PDT #7684 of 30001
Trust my rage
Yeah, but they were mumbling about something too, right?
Steph L. - Sep 09, 2009 3:57:29 pm PDT #7685 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I figured he'd save Ted Kennedy for the closer. Not that it's not applicable -- it very VERY much is -- but it's also great politics.
Stephanie - Sep 09, 2009 3:58:32 pm PDT #7686 of 30001
Trust my rage
Yeah, and his family looks so...emotionally raw, but representing Teddy.
Steph L. - Sep 09, 2009 4:04:06 pm PDT #7687 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Big Words Used By Obama: demagoguery; acrimony.
I. Love. Him.
Hil R. - Sep 09, 2009 4:04:33 pm PDT #7688 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I really want to know who it was that shouted "Lies!" when Obama said that the plan wouldn't cover illegal immigrants. That one should be pretty easy to verify or disprove -- it's not like it's one of the "what will happen in ten years if we do this and this happens and this other thing happens but this thing doesn't happen" questions. And his next sentence was about not paying for abortion, and I really expected somebody to shout out something then. (He kind of looked like he expected it, too.)
Miracleman - Sep 09, 2009 4:07:53 pm PDT #7689 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Hec, Em is...nearly...dead on.
I forget how old he is, so maybe I'm just being a jerk. The Eighth Amendment doesn't apply in this situation because:
The prisoners were not accused of a "crime" but of an "act of war". Yes, including those who were *conveniently* classified as "enemy combatants" despite not actually engaging in active combat against the U.S. or any of its citizens or soldiers. As "enemy combatants" they fell under the jurisdiction of military, rather than normal Constitutional (see also: criminal) law.
Doesn't make what Bush did right (anyone want to tell me that's what I'm saying will get a boot and a multi-tool in their neck), but the Constitution doesn't apply.
Various treaties and agreements with other countries do, however. The Geneva Convention(s) (properly it's plural, being a set of agreed-upon conventions for international legal issues, especially in time of war) being primary among them.
Sounds like Emmett has at least read the Constitution, though, which is super double extra awesome. If it means anything, tell him MM not only approves but thinks he rocks the world.
Trudy Booth - Sep 09, 2009 4:07:55 pm PDT #7690 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
The Prez is NOT going to say "Death Panel". He's above that shit, yo.
Jessica - Sep 09, 2009 4:07:57 pm PDT #7691 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
And his next sentence was about not paying for abortion, and I really expected somebody to shout out something then.
Well, I did, but I don't think he heard me...