I'm fairly certain I said no interruptions.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Aug 28, 2009 11:29:15 am PDT #5978 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You know, it pisses it me off IMFUCKINGMENSELY that on the one hand MJ can get this badly fucked up with little supervision, and then on the other hand, normal non-celebrity people get treated like junkies when they try to get enough meds to get their pain dialed down from a 12 to an 11.

Oh yeah, that too.


amych - Aug 28, 2009 11:31:29 am PDT #5979 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

(And to be super-clear, both hands piss me off.)


JZ - Aug 28, 2009 11:35:29 am PDT #5980 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

::sits in the pissed-off corner::

Also, if anyone does feel they need to inflict more of the awful kidnapping story on themselves, the Contra Costa Times, the local paper for the county Antioch is in, has good (if depressing) coverage. Including an apology from the county sheriff, which is too little too late for the woman and her children, but at least is a real apology and not a handwavey not-our-fault fauxpology.


Ginger - Aug 28, 2009 11:36:37 am PDT #5981 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

You know, it pisses it me off IMFUCKINGMENSELY that on the one hand MJ can get this badly fucked up with little supervision, and then on the other hand, normal non-celebrity people get treated like junkies when they try to get enough meds to get their pain dialed down from a 12 to an 11.

One of my all time pet peeves. I can be coughing in the doctor's office with a cough that can be heard in Alabama and still have to practically beg the obviously suspicious doctor for codeine.


Ginger - Aug 28, 2009 11:43:19 am PDT #5982 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

According to the Contra Costa Times, the sheriff "attributed the shortcoming to the deputy's lack of ready access to a database containing information about sex offenders in the county." I found him [link] on the sex offender registry in 10 seconds.


flea - Aug 28, 2009 11:54:34 am PDT #5983 of 30001
information libertarian

Unfortunately, Ginger, you are way smarter and more computer literate than the average sheriff's deputy.

Cases like this are extra hard because there seems to be pretty clear evidence that the guy is mentally ill - hearing voices from God, etc. I think the Elizabeth Smart kidnapper was found mentally unfit to stand trial for the same reason. The crime is horrible, but the criminal pretty clearly does not know right from wrong. (OTOH, if you know your brother is literally insane, why do you let him take care of your elderly, dementia-suffering mother?)


Dana - Aug 28, 2009 12:01:04 pm PDT #5984 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

2PM, and I'm waiting for someone to call me for a phone interview.

t twiddles thumbs


erikaj - Aug 28, 2009 12:04:21 pm PDT #5985 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

OMG, Andy Bellefleur works in Cali, now...too bad they didn't have a Sookie, too.


Barb - Aug 28, 2009 12:10:20 pm PDT #5986 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

(nobody's saying, "Nice fella, kept to himself," they're all saying things like "Weird, angry man, gave me the creeps")

Actually, I think they quoted his next door neighbor as saying he seemed like a nice guy and that she's doubting the story or can't believe it or somesuch. Which left me seriously boggled as I read this. I mean, denial, much?

Yep, here it is: [link]

Next-door neighbor Helen Boyer, who Thursday described the Garridos as "nice people," told ABCNews.com today that she was "numb" after learning about the abuse allegedly at the hands of people she'd known for more than 10 years.

"I feel terrible," she said. "When they mentioned the house of horror, it upset us really bad."

Boyer said she had seen three young girls at the house, who she now believes to be Jaycee and her 11-and 15-year-old daughters, but never thought anything was amiss.

She had known for a long time that Garrido was a registered sex offender, but didn't think to call authorities "because it was supposedly Nancy's friend's kids."

It's that last bit that kills me-- she KNEW he was a sex offender, but the fact that she saw little kids over there didn't ping her at all because they were supposedly kids of the wife's friend? Really?


Theodosia - Aug 28, 2009 12:13:38 pm PDT #5987 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I think I'll stay away from that story for the sake of my blood pressure right now.