That's the thrill of living in the Hellmouth! There's a veritable cornucopia of fiends and devils and ghouls to engage ... Pardon me for finding the glass half-full.

Giles ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Aug 25, 2009 8:26:41 pm PDT #5600 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

RIP, Ted Kennedy. [link]


Cass - Aug 25, 2009 8:55:50 pm PDT #5601 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

That's ... hard to even react to. He was ... wow.


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2009 9:06:56 pm PDT #5602 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

are you available and up for lunch tomorrow?

I should be. I'm trying to ration the migraine meds and ER visits, but it hasn't been getting bad until the afternoon.


meara - Aug 25, 2009 10:06:38 pm PDT #5603 of 30001

Dang, poor Teddy. Can we pass health care on his ne now please?? Also, who's going to take that seat now? Or, well, be appointed.


P.M. Marc - Aug 25, 2009 10:33:07 pm PDT #5604 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Well, fuck. Poor Teddy.


Shir - Aug 26, 2009 12:35:51 am PDT #5605 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Probably not the best timing with Ted Kennedy's passing (because even I know to identify big news when I know next to nothing on them. Especially when dad, who spent his first few years in U.S. (1958-1962, between the ages of 4-8), is clinging to the foreign news channels as a sort of a life support), but -

There is such a field as philosophical geography. 4 realz. I'm now waiting for philosophical geology, philosophical electricity and philosophical hydrology. Some shit I'm into is almost 'pataphysitic.


flea - Aug 26, 2009 1:27:55 am PDT #5606 of 30001
information libertarian

I heard some insider talk on the Cape (like, the person I was talking to had been talking to Ted that morning) that they were hoping his wife Victoria could be appointed. Apparently she is a smart cookie. Did they pass that exemption in MA?


Jesse - Aug 26, 2009 2:44:31 am PDT #5607 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh man, Teddy.

flea, I don't know if they changed that yet -- meara, when John Kerry was running for president and there was a Republican governor, they made a rule that it needs to be a special election, not an appointment, or something.


flea - Aug 26, 2009 3:04:57 am PDT #5608 of 30001
information libertarian

I read up, and they did not change the rule. There needs to be a special election within 145 days (or some number of days like that).

I have mixed feelings about Ted Kennedy; he'd never have been elected at all but for nepotism, and he basically killed someone while driving drunk and got off with no punishment, but he did push for a lot of legislative things I believe in.


Barb - Aug 26, 2009 3:20:55 am PDT #5609 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

I always thought of him as being both victim of his upbringing and rising above the expectations placed on him. In many ways, while he had a privileged life, it had to be hellish growing up a boy in that family-- the youngest boy at that-- with Papa Joe as the patriarch. It wasn't so much "Do as I say, not as I do," as it was "Do as I say and do, just don't get caught and if you do, make sure you know the right people to make it go away."